thats true for so many disussions held in the internet! your post
should become a sticky in every forum:-)
to the problem:
i have a 8040 and a 8050 and i don=B4t have the problems, they work great.
BUT before i bought them i tested two 8040 in a shop, and one of them
seemed to work, and then it started to make those noises you also
posted examples off. i remember that clearly.
the it worked again, but when i just touched it the noise could come
back. very strange.
the other worked fine all the time..
and to say something positive, the 80xx sound amazing! i like them
more than the old mkh series, much more. they are more noisy (feels
like they are more noisy than the specs say), but the have a nicer
sound to my ears.. (i also have a mkh40..)
and to record in 192 khz and pitch them down... oh man. this alone is
the best reason for those mics. try it, its just very very amazing..
Am 06.10.2011 um 05:49 schrieb Danny:
> The internet is both and good and bad in these situations. Companies
> play it conservatively to deal with inevitable issues that arise
> without admitting unwarranted fault. One person has a problem,
> another does and they post about it and the consensus becomes that
> the item is flawed and the company is trying to pull the wool over
> our eyes. That said, people who don't have a problem do not post or
> go online looking for solutions so the majority of discussions will
> relate to people who have had problems. This skews the way things
> seem. I'm not saying that these mics don't have problems, but it is
> not correct to say that if a company does not monitor every possible
> discussion forum that they are trying to pull a fast one on us.
>
> --- In Gregory O'Drobinak
> <> wrote:
> >
> > It is really disheartening that Sennheiser is producing mics of
> such poor
> > quality. I'm not sure at this point that I would even consider
> buying an of
> > these 8000 series mics, even if I could spare a kidney to pay the
> exorbitant
> > price that they ask for pair of them.
> >
> > I would think that if Sennheiser had any gumption at all that they
> would have
> > one of their representatives address these issues to all of the
> members of our
> > list in straight-ahead manner without sweeping it under the rug
> and giving us
> > stupid excuses. It may cost them a momentary loss of face, but I
> think that
> > people appreciate honesty in the long run. Give us the straight
> dope and tell us
> > what you're going to do about it.
> >
> > Then again, maybe this heralds the beginning of the end of the
> good life as we
> > know it. Time to buy another pair of AT-4022s (& maybe some 4021s)
> and get ready
> > for ????. Oh yes: also get some good dynamic mics with high SPL
> ratings. They
> > are always good in blast zones! :>}
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: vickipowys <>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wed, October 5, 2011 8:31:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] noisy 8020 mics
> >
> > Antoine,
> >
> > The whole series may be affected.
> >
> > Send them back.
> >
> > Tell your shop that many people have the problem, even Australie!
> >
> > Give them a sample recording of noise on a CD.
> >
> > Vicki
> >
> >
> >
> > On 06/10/2011, at 12:16 PM, agriboval wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry for the trouble to listen to the files, put them on the blog
> > > as advised. I understand your language poorly, you advise me to
> > > send them back for repair or is the whole series that seems to be
> > > affected? Thank you for your answer!
> > > Antoine
> > > http://braconnages.unblog.fr/
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In bruce seifried
> > > <eclairengineering@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Oh, man. I know this issue well. Unfortunately.
> > >>
> > >> Rather than trust my sometimes quirky memory, I will copy/paste
> part
> > >> of one of my emails to my dealer:
> > >>
> > >> *********
> > >>
> > >> "Here's a recap of my MKH8020/8040 adventure:
> > >>
> > >> =E2=80=A2 Original order was for one pair each of MKH8020 stereo set=
,
> and
> > >> MKH8040 stereo set. Order date 5/8/08.
> > >>
> > >> =E2=80=A2 One of the 8020 omnis went bad on my first remote job. =
> Intermittent
> > >> full output noise spikes ruined recording.
> > >> This pair was replaced by Sennheiser on approximately 7/1/08.
> > >>
> > >> =E2=80=A2 New pair of 8020's both went bad before my first job with =
> them.
> > >> Both
> > >> initially had low-level crackly noise problems. One of them
> > >> subsequently improved, but both were returned to Sennheiser for a
> > >> refund.
> > >>
> > >> =E2=80=A2 The 8040 pair were initially fine, and worked in my studio=
.
> They
> > >> were set up here prior to a remote job in October, and one
> developed
> > >> the same low-level crackles that the second 8020 pair had. This
> noise
> > >> took about a minute to get going before manifesting itself, and
> was
> > >> then continuous. These were returned to Sennheiser for a refund.
> > >>
> > >> I returned the 8020/8040 pairs for a refund reluctantly, since
> I did
> > >> very much like their sound, especially the 8020s, but I no longer
> > >> trust that these microphones are reliable enough for me to use
> in a
> > >> professional situation.
> > >>
> > >> As a circuit designer myself, I will hazard a guess as to what
> might
> > >> be the cause of these problems.
> > >>
> > >> If it were not for the intermittent full-level noise problem
> with the
> > >> first 8020 pair, I would guess that there was some form of
> > >> contamination to the high impedance section of the pc boards
> > >> happening
> > >> during manufacture, perhaps due to incomplete removal of flux
> during
> > >> soldering. Another possibility is a bad batch of FETs or
> transistors
> > >> sneaking into production. Less likely but still possible would
> be bad
> > >> capacitors. Obviously, I did not open these to determine for
> certain
> > >> what the problem(s) was/were.
> > >>
> > >> However, I did notice that the small circular pc board located
> > >> between
> > >> the two halves of the microphones was not firmly attached in
> place,
> > >> and was not always accurately centered. In fact, in one of the
> > >> mics as
> > >> initially received it was so far out of alignment that there were
> > >> positions of rotation of the XLR assembly where the pin was
> > >> barely, if
> > >> at all, making contact with the circular pc board trace. This
> > >> might be
> > >> a design decision that should be rethought, at least to improve
> on
> > >> the
> > >> dimensional tolerances involved."
> > >>
> > >> *********
> > >>
> > >> My dealer, Steve Remote at Aura Sonic, was a complete saint
> during
> > >> this nightmare, and managed to get Sennheiser to completely
> refund
> > >> the
> > >> cost of these microphones. I have refrained from going public
> about
> > >> all this, since I had not seen any other mention anywhere of
> anyone
> > >> else having these sorts of problems, and I was beginning to
> doubt my
> > >> own sanity. I tried these mics with different mic cables, two
> > >> different Sound Devices 702 recorders, the KORG DSD recorder,
> and the
> > >> outcome was always the same. Sennheiser denied that anyone else
> was
> > >> having these problems. Apparently, I'm not insane, as is now
> > >> apparent.
> > >> Yay!
> > >>
> > >> I feel your pain!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> bruce seifried
> > >> eclair engineering
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 4:21 AM, vickipowys wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> All,
> > >>>
> > >>> Does anyone else have problems with periodic loud fizzing
> noise from
> > >>> Sennheiser 8020 mics?
> > >>>
> > >>> Sennheiser replaced one set of mics ('faulty capsule' they
> said) but
> > >>> the noise persists in the replacement mics despite me checking
> > >>> absolutely everything by way of leads and phantom power
> voltage and
> > >>> connectors etc. etc.
> > >>>
> > >>> Help please!
> > >>>
> > >>> Vicki Powys
> > >>> Australia
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> > > sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> > > Krause.
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> > sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> Krause.
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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