Brilliant Rob. There's some great links to investigate there.
I've never used the 1/8 cable for the NT4 but I'll dig it out and see if it=
has the pad.
There were inadequacies with the Zoom - not being able to control the gain =
independently to each stereo channel for example - but the bottom line was =
I worked out I was rarely going to use the built-in mics once I'd worked ho=
w much better another mic was going to be. I'm very happy with the Fostex f=
or the price.
Tim
On 12 Aug 2010, at 08:11, Rob Danielson wrote:
> Hi Tim--
> Not patronizing at all. You are absolutely right that one has to look
> into a recording _system_ that will fulfill one's long-term needs.
> Perhaps because its the "recorder" and prices are fairly affordable
> these days, folks get understandably excited about this one,
> component. Its actually easier to start examining mic/array options
> first and decide on the recorder last. There's a mic/recorder
> matching section in the FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/34ojchb
>
> The H4n's input noise has been _measured_ at -107 dBu
> http://tinyurl.com/2vpknz3. Applying this to the chart, its likely
> this recorder will add (input) noise when used at high gain with mics
> with 17 dB(A) or lower self-noise. One wouldn't expect this based on
> the manufacturer's literature or the other features, but even the
> numbers predict it.
>
> You are also correct that being able to hear for oneself what very
> low noise mics sound like is worth the effort and money. No one can
> adequately describe the difference between external mics with 8dB(A)
> self-noise in a full-fledged stereo array and built-in mics in a 17
> dB(A) in a compact recorder array. Some pro dealers will agree to an
> arrangement where one can try out some additional mics before you
> commit. For example, one can agree to buy one pair of mics and charge
> out 2 pairs with the understanding that one pair will be returned for
> a full refund after you get a chance to compare them. Pro dealers
> that also rent will sometimes apply the rental fee towards purchase.
>
> Topic switch: Did you check to see whether your NT-4 has the
> attenuation "pad" in the supplied 1/8" stereo cable? Since you're
> using it with the Fostex, the XLR is pad free and good to go. But in
> case you do use the 1/8th cable sometimes:
> https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/type/www/audio-reports/Rode_NT-4_Cable_Mod/NT=
-4_CableMod-index.htm
> Rob D.
>
> =3D =3D =3D
>
> At 7:00 AM +0100 8/12/10, Tim Nunn wrote:
> >One bit of general advice, that I'm sure others have said the same -
> >try it before you commit, rent, borrow, steal.
> >I'm pretty new to this game myself and have similar goals to yours.
> >I was also convinced I needed a unit with built in mics and bought
> >the Zoom H4n. It's a great machine (really) but I then went on a
> >wildlife sounds recording course, came home, sent it straight back
> >and got a Fostex FR2-LE and started researching mics. I now have a
> >Rode NT4 and will invest in some more. I'm not saying the same thing
> >will happen with you but you really will not know until you get out
> >there. Sorry if that's patronising downtalk!
> >
> >On 12 Aug 2010, at 00:26, scratchpaws wrote:
> >
> >> I'm finding it really difficult to give it up on this 661
> >>business. This thing seems to rock. That thing about the mics being
> >>designed for indoor use has got me spooked, though. If there's a
> >>unit with a mic better suited for ambient wilderness sounds, that's
> >>the way I'm gonna have to go. Maybe I'll hit the lottery tonight,
> >>then I can buy the 661, the D50 and the D1. Now there's a thought.
> >
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