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11. Re: what is this creature/sound ?

Subject: 11. Re: what is this creature/sound ?
From: "Marinos Koutsomichalis" marinoskouts=
omichalis
Date: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:45 pm ((PDT))

absolutely not.. this place is not exactly civilized.. it' s an isolated be=
ach - there is not chance there is no sewing system around for lots of kilo=
meters..




On 01 =CE=91=CF=85=CE=B3 2010, at 1:38 =CF=80.=CE=BC., hartogj wrote:

>
> Maybe you were near a sewer outlet pipe. Could be sounds from a pump.
>
> John Hartog
>
> --- In  Marinos Koutsomichalis <marinos@=
...> wrote:
> >
> > well,
> >
> > whatever it is, I like it - and that' s what matters probably..
> >
> > but I still, I tend to believe that it has to be sth buried in the sand=
,
> >
> > This beach is pretty isolated - there' s not much going on there - Just=
 a couple of houses and a tavern, or sth like that. No radio stations, cabl=
es or people using mobile phones.. Well, in our century electromagnetic rad=
iation could be everywhere, of course.. There is a military airport somewhe=
re in the greater area, indeed, but we are talking about a distance of more=
 than 10 kms. It' s highly unlikely that their radar would cause such a sou=
nd underwater..
> >
> > The most logical thing to me is that some kind of crustacean or sea-wor=
m lived there or sth else. (it' s not flattering to record radar sounds in =
a beach anyway..)
> >
> > just for the record - The hydros were a set of dolphinEar Pros, I bough=
t them second hand from a guy that bought them together for a never-to-be-r=
ealised-project - so probably they are of the same set - plugged into a mar=
antz PMD661 recorder.
> >
> >
> > On 31 =C3=8E=E2=84=A2=C3=8E=C2=BF=C3=8F=E2=80=A6=C3=8E=C2=BB 2010, at 5=
:59 =C3=8E=C2=BC.=C3=8E=C2=BC., James Shatto wrote:
> >
> > > > --- On Sat, 7/31/10, Marinos Koutsomichalis <>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: Marinos Koutsomichalis <>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] what is this creature/sound ?
> > > > To: 
> > > > Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 12:33 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There are some military radars within the greater area,
> > > > but in a distance of several km, if that was the case,
> > > > the other mic should pick that kinds of sounds I think.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not necessarily. If you didn't buy them as a matched pair. Manufactur=
ed as part of the same lot with the same materials. Like if you bought them=
 used from two different sources at different times. The mics could be diff=
erent enough to respond differently. It could be things other than the mics=
 as well. Are you using the same brand of cable with the same connectors, o=
f about the same age? And various other possibilities with the field record=
er and stuff.
> > >
> > > I've thought about building a faraday type cage for my field recorder=
 and preamps. Which would double as a rain shelter. While I'm mostly immune=
 to most cell phone handshakes and stuff like that, I have picked up a radi=
o station at least once. There was visual contact with the transmission tow=
er, just a couple of blocks away. Lowering the elevation of the mics helped=
. Tucking the field recorder under the aluminum bleachers I was sitting on =
helped. Even making sure that the 1/4" adapter on the 1/8" tip of my headph=
ones was secure helped. While it didn't remove the sound from the recording=
s in it's entirety, it did achieve a balance where the radio station statio=
n can only be heard when using studio monitors and at a volume that wasn't =
pleasant to listen at in the first place.
> > >
> > > Although the monitoring environment at the time of capture made it se=
em much worse than it actually ended up being. The odd thing was that I alm=
ost didn't bring the headphones to monitor with on that occasion. Now I alw=
ays bring them regardless. Even if you trust your gear, you never know what=
 you're recording at the time of capture unless you monitor what you're rec=
ording. Having that immediate feedback lets you know that it's there, and o=
therwise makes you search for the source. If you go back after the fact and=
 it was a military aircraft carrier at sea, it might not be there anymore. =
And you'll never be able to replicate the problem. And always wonder what t=
hat was. If it is the mics you might be able to identify if it was just a l=
oose connection or something else easily preventable. And otherwise correct=
 the problem on site and get a flawless recording.
> > >
> > > It could have also been a bird standing over your mic making noise. O=
r baby turtles buried in the sand near by hatching. Without a visual record=
 or being there to investigate, we may never know.
> > >
> > > - James
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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