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Re: Humpback talk

Subject: Re: Humpback talk
From: "Robb Nichols" robb_nichols
Date: Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:12 am ((PDT))
This is a good idea.  The other advantage of using the drogue is that it
will keep the kayak pointed in the same direction, so your image will be
more stable when recording in stereo.  It would be very cumbersome to
use in a kayak, but if you want to experiment before buying or making
anything, the old fisherman's trick is to just drag a plastic
five-gallon bucket.

If you do try it, I'd be curious if the line between the drogue and the
boat makes noise.

On 3/18/2010 2:41 AM, ROSS HALE wrote:
> The problem of the cable strumming could also be reduced if you slow your=
 drift speed down, ideally your speed through the water should be zero.
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wind drift.
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> http://www.whitbyseaanglers.co.uk/kayak-drogues-using-a-kayk-drogue
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> Cheers, Ross
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> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re: Humpback talk
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> cable vibration dampener / sinker is one of those products that I've had
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> electrical-taping a banana weight from the local fishing tackle store
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> kind of does the same thing.  You'll need to experiment with what works
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> best with your rig in your location, but perhaps start with a four to
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> six-ounce weight taped to the cable about a foot above the hydrophone.
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> If that is not enough mass to keep it down, I'd try a second weight
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> Your hydrophone actually has a very high specific gravity, but its small
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>> I went out yesterday to record from kayak, got some good stuff, but
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