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Subject: Re: Band-tailed Pigeon
From: "Rob Danielson" danielson_audio
Date: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:12 pm ((PDT))
John--
Played over my speakers I _am_ hearing lower mid-range spatial
imagery in the center. Not a hole at all.

Of course, there's lots of overlap with a 100 degree angle.  Looking
at the NT1-A's polar pattern, <1K Hz sounds are unaffected up to 70
degrees left and right of center axis.  Sound reflections from
distant surfaces like the lake are likely in this bandwidth. Any way,
nice results and possibly an example of how one can aim these wide
cardioid mics at key HF sources angled up to 140 degrees and not lose
the <1K Hz sounds in the center.   HF sound sources will probably be
less present in the center compared to a 60 degree angle. Rob D.

At 4:08 AM +0000 8/18/09, John Hartog wrote:
>
>Hi Rob,
>Yes, I was using my baffled NT1A rig. And though I use 60 deg as my
>default angle between mics, something came over me in my late night
>grogginess and I rotated them out to +/- 100 degrees. I am not sure
>that was the best decision for this location, but I have noticed
>that using the baffle preserves overall localization independent of
>mic angle. The "hole in the center" was aimed slightly downward
>toward the center of the small lake. Hmmmm, makes me wonder...
>
>John Hartog
>
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>Rob Danielson <> wrote:
>>
>>  At 9:45 AM -0700 8/17/09, Dan Dugan wrote:
>>  >
>>  >> I recorded this band-tailed pigeon a couple weeks ago at one of my
>>  >> favorite spots in the hills near the coastal town of Nehalem, Oregon=
.
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >><<http://www.rockscallop.org/ear/jh-090801_BTPI_v01.mp3>http://www.ro=
ckscallop.org/ear/jh-090801_BTPI_v01.mp3><http://www.rockscallop.org/ear/jh=
-090801_BTPI_v01.mp3>http://www.rockscallop.org/ear/jh-090801_BTPI_v01.mp3
>>  >>
>>  >> An annoying motor began idling nearby, just when the pigeon moved to
>>  >> a nice proximity. So, I doctored up the recording with a cut and
>>  >> paste on the lower frequencies, and then some EQ too. Still a nice
>>  >> species example I think.
>>  >
>>  >About the best I've heard, John. That bird is notoriously hard to
>>  >record--at least for me they always sound like they're far away
>>  >somewhere else.
>>  >
>>  >-Dan Dugan
>>
>>  And imaging of the setting as well! A powerful sense of the distant
>>  sound horizon across the middle while preserving distinct
>>  articulation to the sides. It find it a challenge to get the lower
>>  mid-range frequencies to define depth across the middle. Did you make
>>  it with your baffled NT1-A cardioid pair angled at approx 60 degrees?
>>  Rob D.
>>  --
>>
>>
>>
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