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Subject: 4. Re: An example of population pressure on nature
From: "David Kuhn" dkuhn012001
Date: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:16 am ((PST))
--- In  Robb Nichols <> 
wrote, citing his friend in his cups:
<The planet will recover in a blink of cosmic time" > 

Robb, your friend is sadly mistaken and his "astuteness" reflects a 
profound and cavalier ignorance of the dynamics governing the changes 
we have wrought on the Earth. Lessons from Hawaii: As species 
diversity is irrecoverably lost (through extinction of the most 
specialized creatures first), the species that will thrive are those 
most adaptable, i.e., are immune to most diseases, etc.--imagine an 
Earth populated mainly by rats, pigs, cockroaches, goats, Starlings, 
House Sparrows, and so on--many nature recordists have first-hand 
experience of this very breath-taking dismaying progression. Nothing 
moves me more than the reality of it.

> Bernie Krause wrote:
> >
> > As Bill McKibben once said: "We often choose to love nature to 
> >
> > Bernie
> >
> > On Nov 10, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Robert Heckendorn wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to give an example of endangered local habitat and 
make a
> > > prediction that I think is relevant to this group and the wild 
> > > we enjoy. The area around Fort Collins, Colorado is exploding in
> > > population. Huge additions are being built. The recreation in 
> > > area is wonderful (I lived there for 12 years). One of the gems 
> > > the Poudre River Canyon. It is about 50 miles of wonderful 
rural and
> > > scenic riparian area. The people of Fort Collins love their 
> > >
> > > Now for my prediction. even though people love the outdoors and 
> > > their river, when population pressures force the need for more 
> > > and people have to give up all their lawns and cleaning things 
and the
> > > public pool and when it gets down to just crops and drinking 
> > > they will dam the Poudre river and you can kiss the Poudre River
> > > canyon goodbye. No one is asking now if there is a problem with
> > > uncontrolled population growth, they will just take the natural 
> > > because they have to survive *that day* when it is too late. In 
> > > choice between your children's survival and nature, nature 
loses. The
> > > way to avoid that decision is to consider population today not 
how we
> > > accommodate the population when it is too late.
> > >
> > > I don't mean this to sound so negative but like high explosives,
> > > exponential growth needs to be handled with great care and we 
> > > just say "Things will work out". Not that anyone has in this 
> > > nature sensitive group. I just feel compelled by Walt's remarks 
> > > express my feelings about this seldom mentioned threat to 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >

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