Vicky, Rob, all - I am now trying out the best way to squeeze the
most out of it.
Two cardioids is the most small-size design, but handling and wind
noise makes it practically impossible to use in the field. You will
need a tripod and a windshield.
I tried to put one omni at each side of the recorder, (binaural) but
the display radiates audible noise into the mic placed at the front
of the LS-10.
I'll report as soon as I feel "finished" with my testings.
Klas.
At 15:49 2008-07-01, you wrote:
>Hi Vicki--
>I couldn't find your rig photo/folder quickly. I'll look more later.
>Yes, Klas offered to make up some EM21's specifically for the LS-10.
>At ~14dB(A) self-noise, they should be much quieter and a very good
>match for the LS-10's pre. I'm curious about some myself. Rob D.
>
> = = = = =
>
>At 6:08 PM +1000 7/1/08, Vicki Powys wrote:
> >Rob and all,
> >
> >Re my head-mounted WL-183s, I have just now posted a photos of my rig
> >in the photos section for this group (in my folder for the LS-10).
> >For the first version I used closed headphones but I just cannot use
> >these and get really claustrophobic and disoriented with them. I do
> >need to be able to hear what is happening around me. Hence the
> >current version with mics mounted on open headphones. The mics are
> >facing forwards and are held on with bulldog clips, and have extra
> >thimble-sized furry covers to help with wind. I tried this set up
> >yesterday for stalking lyrebirds (with the LS-10). It was
> >wonderful. I could easily push the headphones off my ears to hear
> >what was happening around me. When recording, of course I cannot
> >have any volume for the headphones because it will pick up on the
> >mics, but I can check the recording later to make sure everything is
> >working OK.
> >
> >This is my ultimate in stealth recording for the moment!
> >
> >Maybe Klas's little EM mics would give a better result than the WL-183s?
> >
> >Vicki Powys
> >Australia
> >
> >On 01/07/2008, at 4:43 PM, Rob Danielson wrote:
> >
> >> --- In
> >><naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
> roups.com,
> >>Vicki Powys <>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On a calm day, using the Olympus LS-10 with recording level on 5, I
> >>> recorded some ambience with small birds, comparing head-mounted Shure
> >>> WL-183 mics with the built-in mics. The WL-183s were MUCH quieter,
> >>> although they did not boost the volume of the calls. The best result
> >>> was with the WL-183s and low cut ON. (The WL-183s were powered using
> >>> the LS-10s plug-in-power, turned on in the menu.)
> >>>
> >>> For anyone interested I will upload a file with a medley of 3 clips,
> >>> to the group web page:
> >>>
> >>> 1. quietest, WL-183s, low cut on, vol. 5
> >>> 2. medium, WL-183s, low cut off, vol. 5
> >>> 3. noisiest, LS-10s built-in mics, low cut off, vol. 5
> >>>
> >>> Conclusion: The WL-183s made a very worthwhile improvement in sound
> >>> quality.
> >>>
> >>> Vicki Powys
> >>> Australia
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi Vicki--
> >>
> >> Thanks! Very instructive. Your WL183 rig does seem like a significant
> >> improvement whenever one wants to be able to quickly capture some
> >> sound.
> >>
> >> In terms of frequency response, I detect significantly reduced low
> >> frequency (LF) content even with the low cut filter set to "off" with
> >> the LS-10's built-in mics. The Shure WL183's, known for moderate, not
> >> excessive LF response, exhibit much more response under 100 Hz. There
> >> also appears to be a lower mid-range rise starting at 125 Hz and
> >> extending just short of 2K Hz that seems to be producing the
> >> comparative, "roaring" quality in the LS-10's built-in mics. This
> >> "rise" sounds like there is an ocean surf to the right a few hundred
> >> yards away.
> >>
> >> I know that some recordists prefer to focus mostly on the bird calls
> >> and are less interested in LF response, but LF can be critical when
> >> depth and distance are desired in the imagery. The lack of LF in the
> >> LS-10's mics also makes the lower mid-range "roar" of the built=in
> >> mics seem more imbalanced.
> >>
> >> In terms of stereo imaging, there is definitely more horizontal
> >> expanse to the bird calls with your 183 rig. The LS-10's imaging seems
> >> quite asymmetrical. You write, "head mounted." Are the 183 capsules
> >> facing forward? A photo of your 183 rig? Rob D.
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> >> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> >> Krause
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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