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Subject: 2. Re: Recording Software Question
From: "John Lundsten" lundsten_john
Date: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:20 pm ((PST))
Danny Meltzer wrote
What do you mean by 'built in processing'?

{JL} possibly a rather gentle reference to the fact that a lot of the 
plugins within PT (for instance) are pretty bad, esspecially if you are used 
to adobe audition.

Anyway, Pro Tools is far and away the most versatile, powerful and
intuitive multitrack audio software for Mac or otherwise.

{JL} Eh! ok it's very powerful probably the most powerful DAW around with 
the widest selection of 3rd party add-on but it really needs them. As to 
intuitive, sure ultimately it's a subjective thing but steep learning curve 
with a perverse interface is more my impression (and I've used PT quite a 
lot on both PC's & Mac's) if you have used it (and little else) for years 
then it will seem obvious & easy of course.
Versatile: - It's about the only major app to my knowledge that has no 
assignable keystrokes & no macros.  {JL}

It is expensive though, and the hardware thing is a drag when you're
{Yes very expensive, I recon to get PT LE to do what Adobe Audition does out 
the box you would have to spend well over $2000 on plug-ins.

But overall, the good outweighs the bad.

{JL} IMO very much the reverse

But back to the original post; yes Audition is a PC prog which apparently 
works rather well using windows on an Intel based Mac.

 Audition 3.0 works GREAT under Bootcamp. It even works really well under 
Parallels if Parallels is given enough RAM to work with. Virtual PC and 
VMWare images support it as well, though it's definitely not 
high-performance under those engines.

If you really want to get crazy, you can run Audition 1.5 under CrossOver, 
the Mac WINE port of the Linux Windows Emulation package. You can't record 
or burn CD's, but editing and mixing all works amazingly well. "

Apple Logic has some perks if you're a composer. And it comes with
some good plugins unlike Pro Tools.

Peak is pretty great as a 2 track editor. Perfectly good program.

Software-wise....the old standard, the WAVES Q10 EQ is very versatile
and powerful. I have just discovered some new compressor and limiter
plugins that I find to sound more natural than my Waves L3 and C4
though. And they are really cheap.

They only work in RTAS format though. I believe AU format is in the

Those of you who poo-poo limiting and compression in nature recording,
feel free to ignore me.


--- In  Lou Judson <> wrote:
> Ahhh. Question I like. I have an ongoing relationship with Protools,
> since it was where I started. You do need their hardware, though,
> which some people don't like. You can get the new Mbox Micro, which
> is a USB dongle with only a headphone jack and the software comes
> with it. If you use a portable recorder sich as the ones discussed
> here, you can work on the files with Protools very nicely, and it
> costs about $250... or various M-Audio hardware devices.
> Peak from is also good but only stereo. I use Peak Pro
> 5.21, but there is a lite edition too if costs are an issue or needs
> simple.
> There are a few free ones, like Audacity, and some specialized ones
> like BoomRecorder, and so on.
> I have never operated a Windows computer so don't know what you need
> or expect. Either tell more about what you want to do, or listen to
> others here who may know more different softwares.
> By far the most important tools I have is a Platinum Bundle from
> Waves - there are many issues about their pricing, rental fees, and
> politics, but since I have it it is what makes my work "professional"
> - the plugins and processing option that comes with various programs
> are a key factor. I've been slowly upgrading Waves since 1998, and to
> start where I am now would cost about $2,000 which is NOT a good
> investment. There are some simpler bundles that will give you the
> tools you need for working with nature recordings...
> Can someone else recommend the best Mac audio program with great
> built in processing? They all have some but I don't know how good or
> complete...
> Best luck!
> Lou
> Lou Judson . Intuitive Audio
> 415-883-2689
> On Jan 10, 2008, at 8:36 AM, David La Puma wrote:
> Lou (and/or anyone else): what software are you using for Mac? I just
> switched from PC to Mac and used to use Adobe Audition... don't have a
> Mac copy now.
> Thanks
> David

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