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Subject: 1. Re: Telinga Stereo-DAT compared with Twin Science?
From: "Martyn Stewart" mijdog2000
Date: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:16 pm ((PDT))
Fabulous blackbird recording Klas..



Just a question, was that the wonderful dog you just recently lost? He look=
s
a special chap, I still miss my Labrador who died 10 years ago, he was my
best friend, I was more devastated loosing him that my brother 2 years ago,
go figure!!!



Love the recordings too.



Martyn

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From: 
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Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re: Telinga Stereo-DAT compared with Twin
Science?



At

http://www.telinga. <http://www.telinga.com/gallery/gallery_private.htm>
com/gallery/gallery_private.htm

you can find a cut of the Blackbird recording I mention below.

Klas.

At 17:58 2007-04-12, you wrote:

> >snip..
> >
> >There is a definite advantage to recording ambience along with the
> >subject. One of the cool things I got a taste of last Tuesday is
> >hearing another bird answering the main singer! It made me wish I had
> >two parabolics. It really seemed like two House Finches were taking
> >turns singing! I couldn't decide whether to keep the dish aimed at
> >one of them or to try to second-guess their turn-taking. I ended up
> >getting some of the former and some of the latter, and in hindsight I
> >should've done the former for the entire time, as it makes for a more
> >interesting and meaningful listen. (Plus, my initial impression that
> >they were taking turns didn't seems as accurate once I started
> >"taking turns" with my microphone.)
>
>Also: I have a "mystery bird" which is recorded mono, about 100
>meters away. There are two calls in the same bush, but no one can say
>if it's the same bird or not.
>I'm not sure, but I think that one could have heard that, using a
>stereo DATmic. Not on the calls, but on the reflections. I even think
>you could have some smart guy make a visual analysis of the reflections,
>
>
> > >Film sound is another niche for Twin Science. They often want the
> > >sound to be as clinical and pure as possible, and then mix it into a
> > >stereo background.
> >
> >I can see this would definitely make sense, because you can separate
> >out tasks for the crew. There can be one person tending to the
> >camera, another holding the parabolic microphone, another (or maybe
> >more than one) doing the background recording. With everything
> >separated, they can choose exactly what levels to mix at.
>
>Not only that. If there is too much ambience in the sound track, you
>will hear the cuts.
>
> >However, a film crew generally knows exactly what they want to get.
> >I'm a one-man crew, and I film whatever beautiful/interesting birds I
> >find on my walks. So the stereo probably still makes more sense.
> >
> >However, for my project of collecting/studying House Finch songs, the
> >Twin Science might make more sense. I want to set up a "grid" in the
> >area where I live, and visit each square of the grid at least once to
> >record the finches there (and visit again later if I have no luck).
> >Since their songs are so localized, I know for some I'll have no
> >choice but to record in a noisy part of the city.
> >
> >If I have a better idea of just how much better the Twin Science is
> >at "clinical" recording, I'll better be able to decide whether to buy
one.
>
>I don't know what your finches sound like, but I am quite sure that
>you can "boost" the call from them by optimizing the Twin Science
>cardioid, compared to what you get with the Stereo DATmic.
>
>Klas.
>
>
>
>
> >"Microphones are not ears,
> >Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >A listening room is not nature."
> >Klas Strandberg
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
>S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
>Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
>email:  <telinga%40bahnhof.se> se
>website: www.telinga.com
>
>
>
>
>
>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
email:  <telinga%40bahnhof.se> se
website: www.telinga.com












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