Martyn,
The Birds of North American monograph on the Montezuma Quail mentions
that there exists some confusion about whether males or females make
certain calls. The calls can be ventriloqual and the quail are
secretive. It would be helpful if someone could clearly document
whether the male or female makes this call. I would be interested in
knowing if someone has captive birds that could clarify the issue?
Kevin
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Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 12:39 PM
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<<The descending tremolo you recorded is the display courtship
Vocalization of the female Montezuma quail. <<<
Well there you go, you learn something everyday!
That would make sense for the time of year!
The guy I spoke to from the Audubon society said that the call was from
a
male and a typical call!! (Maybe he listened to the Stokes CD?)I was
told
that there were breading birds around feather pond, El Paso, I recorded
mine
around the "lost mine trail" in Big Bend TX the habitat consisted of
Pinyon
pine, juniper, oak etc, elevation was around 7.000ft. I had asked the
rangers at the field station to help with various ID's and they didn't
know.
Martyn
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On Behalf Of Kevin J. Colver
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 12:10 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Montezuma Quail story
Martyn,
The descending tremolo you recorded is the display courtship
vocalization of the female Montezuma quail. I was going for this,
along with the male display buzz, but didn't get the female call.=20
Where were you and what habitat were you in when recording this? It is
a rare recording you have. Greg Lasley recorded in TX the version in
the Stoke's Western Guide which I mistakenly labeled as male song.
Kevin Colver
On Monday, September 5, 2005, at 09:39 AM, Martyn Stewart wrote:
> Great story Kevin, I stumbled across a Montezuma quail back in June of
> this
> year, I managed to get 3 calls from him. To be honest with you, I
> didn't
> know what the heck it was calling and I didn't see the bird but I met
> up
> with a guy from the Audubon society in El-Paso who he told me it was a
> typical call from the Montezuma quail, of course I was highly
> delighted, I
> tried to relocated the bird but I guess he knew that I knew who is was
> now
> and shut the hell up!!!
>
> Here is the call included with Mockingbirds etc. it's a kind of
> descending
> whistle type call.
> http://www.naturesound.org/Sound%20Files/Mystery/MontquailTX.mp3
>
> You hear him at 7 seconds 28 seconds and 53 seconds.
>
>
>
> Martyn
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> On Behalf Of Kevin J. Colver
> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 5:26 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Montezuma Quail story
>
> I must confess to being one less interested in mic construction,
> (although I have asked for and made a few mic comments in the past.)
> Stories and sounds are what I enjoy, so I'll share a story.
>
> Jim Morgan was kind enough to accompany me on a long-shot chase for
the
> sounds of Montezuma Quail last week in southern AZ. Few recordings
> exist for this quiet and elusive species. I had never even seen the
> bird in all my time recording in AZ.
>
> We started with an attempted camp in Sunnyside canyon. After a
> friendly, pistol-totting ranch hand told us about the back-country
> robberies by drug-running, automatic rifle bearing gangs in the
canyon,
> we retreated to safer nighttime quarters at an established campground.
>
> Hours combing the canyons in evening and morning turned up no quail
and
> few other vocalizing species at this time of year. The hills are
> beautiful, the summer rains have greened the grass, wildflowers are
> everywhere. Jim got photos.
>
> We decided to try the foothills of the Chiricahua mountains, so with
> the assistance and permission of a generous landowner, we again hiked
> and listened, hiked and listened.
>
> It was after a long morning working the oak grassland that I finally
> gave up and headed down the hill. Suddenly a softball-sized tiny male
> quail burst from the grass under my feet. Flying only 5 meters away
he
> landed while I froze and began recording. He walked from side to side
> and a little toward me, all the time calling with faint moaning cries.
> I seemed to hear another quail also moaning in my stereo Telinga but
> could see no other bird in the thick grass. A few times I heard a
> faint insect-like buzz. The BNA monograph describes the male's
> "insect-like buzz call" but I have never heard a recording of this
> vocalization type. Was I just hearing a nearby insect? Finally,
> unable to hold still longer, my leg falling asleep, I moved and the
> quail flew off.
>
> A review of BNA (Birds of North America) showed mention of a "predator
> distraction display" made by male birds while nearby chicks creep
> unseen into the grass. This would be a behavior similar to the
> broken-wing display of an adult Killdeer designed to draw a predator
> away from the young. I believe I was witness to this display and got
> it all on tape from 5 meters away! I don't have the tape processed
> yet, sorry no sound to share as yet.
>
> Many thanks to Jim for all his help.
>
> I would look forward to hearing about some adventures from all of you.
> Good recording!
>
> Kevin Colver
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