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Re: Re: recorder - mic pre factors

Subject: Re: Re: recorder - mic pre factors
From: Klas Strandberg <>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:31:10 +0200
At 20:47 2005-07-28, you wrote:
>Let me try to re-state Klas' message:
>
>1. Each mic has a self-noise level, produced by the components in its
>design.
>
>2. The recorder pre-amp cannot cancel or compensate for the mic
>self-noise level.  This mic noise level will always be part of the
>recording.
>
>3. The recorder pre-amp has a self-noise level of its own.  This noise
>is also added to the recording.
>
>4. If the mic output signal is strong (i.e., has high mV/Pa), it can
>over-ride the noise of the recorder pre-amp.
>
>5. If you use a mic with low inherent self-noise and strong output,
>you can achieve good quality recordings with a recorder that has a
>noisy pre-amp.

Thanks, excellent summary!

>In practice, this seems to be true.  The Marantz PMD670 is a prime
>example of a recorder with noisy preamps (Marantz claims s/n -65dBA),
>but Martyn Stewart's recordings using Sennheiser MKE and Telinga mics
>sound great.

Also in theory. It is just logics.

>I guess the place I'm having trouble is in the notion of "over-riding"
>the recorder preamp.  Klas, do you mean that when a mic has a high
>mV/Pa, you don't have to turn up the volume of the recorder pre as much?

Yes. Exactly. If enough gain is produced by the "optimized" pre in the mic=

(minimum self-noise!!) - you don't need so much gain in the recorder preamp=
.

Klas.


>--oryoki
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>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
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