I didn't mean to reopen anything.
Can I catch on at another thread?
You say, Jim:
Next time I will certainly
consider my words more carefully .......... (so as to not be too aggressive=
.)
But that's the point: I don't want to be more careful and I don't want you=
to be more careful either...?
Tip-toeing makes the whole body ache. I don't know how to put it otherwise.
If you agree, or don't agree with this, if you understand or don't
understand, - in my mind you can just leave it.
I am just Klas, the mic-maker.
Klas.
At 20:40 2005-07-05, you wrote:
>Ok. Since both Walt and Klas have reopened this, I feel compelled to
>comment since it was I who scolded Klas for his use of what many
>consider to be a pejoritive term. Like anybody else who has been on this
>list for a while, I have tremendous respect for Klas. He is very
>generous with his knowlege and time. I had decided to just let the
>matter drop after Klas' eloquent posting on the matter in which he
>indicated he meant no harm. I am sure he did not. Perhaps Klas is
>correct in feeling that the punishment of my scolding outstripped the
>magnitude of the sin of his words. Perhaps not.
>
>In the spirit of remembering "where we are," I would say we are in the
>whole world, not just the US. Pejorative language has historically been
>the ointment of dehumanization that soothed the consciences of those who
>would do the otherwise unthinkable (slavery, genocide, forced
>colonization, pogroms, holocausts, and even the indiscriminate
>destruction of the only two atomic bomb attacks in history). That is
>what makes it dangerous and unacceptable. Like Klas, I got a lot of
>supportive emails off list including two from Europe assuring me that
>the US is not the only place where the term is recognized as insulting.
>
>So for me the bottom line on that matter is that I would do it again
>even as the "one person" Walt refers to. Next time I will certainly
>consider my words more carefully so as to not be too aggressive. My hope
>for the group is that civility will prevail and that such issues will
>not come up again.
>
>Respectfully
>Jim Lee
>
>Klas Strandberg wrote:
>
> >Hi all.
> >
> >It doesn't seem to make any difference if we discuss on topic or not:
> >
> >In a fully "on topic" posting, I happened to use the word "Jap's" (about
> >Japanese industry standard!!) and got criticized here for offending "an
> >ethnic group". (??)
> >I understood the essence of the critics, but not at all the strength of =
it
> >and the aggression. What terrible had I done? I didn't feel any proporti=
on
> >between the "sin" and the "punishment".
> >I feel the same now, trying to put myself into Martyn's shoes (for examp=
le).
> >
> >Most important: At that time, I got quite a lot of sympathizing emails f=
rom
> >people who didn't dare to send postings to the list, as they feared
> criticism.
> >
> >
>
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>
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>
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