My experience with these Yahoo groups is that CHANGING settings can be a
pain (I wanted to change some settings on one of them and ended up being
unsubscribed), so it might be fastest to unsubscribe and then subscribe
as a new member with all the options you want.
Regards
Horst
Vicki Powys wrote:
>Those who don't want attachments are getting them anyway.
>
>Those who DO want to hear the sounds, cannot access them.
>
>Those who don't want attachments and think they will go for the 'digest' a=
s
>a last resort, cannot then access their Yahoo group settings because they
>originally signed up as 'email only' members.
>
>Those who decide to try and sign up as a new web-based member when they ar=
e
>already an 'email only' member, may then receive two sets of messages and
>attachments, doubling the trouble.
>
>Doug did send me the code line with which he originally signed me up. Thi=
s
>led me to the Yahoo web site which said "you are an email-only member, sig=
n
>up to become a web-based member". But to do that I seem to need to sign i=
n
>as a NEW member. I am very puzzled, have wasted a lot of time on this, an=
d
>still can't figure it out.
>
>Do I need to first unsubscribe, then try to sign on as a new member?
>
>Syd Curtis is waiting for me to try and figure it all out, so's I can then
>help him through the mire.
>
>
>Barb Beck wrote in part, about the risk of viruses:
>
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>>How many of you would open a forged message from naturrecordist with
>>the subject 'Listen to this'. And the text "This is an interesting sound"
>>without a second thought.
>>=20=20=20
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>
>I wholehearted endorse Barb's concerns. Most of us are unable to see just
>what the attachment is, until we actually open the email, which does leave
>us very vulnerable.
>
>Vicki Powys
>Australia
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>
>
>
>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>From Tue Mar 8 18:26:39 2005
Message: 17
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:15:17 -0700
From: "Barb Beck" <>
Subject: Attachment Problems
The major problem with attachments if you do not have a problem with some o=
f
the members probably having to drop the list is that they are a potential
security problem. MP3s can have embedded trouble makers.
Sometimes these are striped or emptied because a sys op above your system
does not want those using their system opening something which can cause
problems. To transfer computer programs I write up to my husband at the
university I can no longer use an attachment on email but must put it up fo=
r
him to get it with a link to either my web site or ftp site. They are just
trying to avoid disastrous consequences of a malicious message being opened=
.
Nobody will answer me - Why not use the Yahoo web page? Yahoo provides it
so you DO N OT HAVE to send attachments. Doug keeps ignoring this question=
.
I do not understand why he does not want us to upload to it. It is easy t=
o
use to upload a file and easy for people to download it from the site. Tha=
t
saves all a lot of hassle. There is something like 20 meg of unused space
there. We exchange butterfly and bird photos on the Alberta bird list and
the Western Canada Butterfly list with no problems. People watch and clear
things out when the site starts to get full. Certainly if some poor old
butterfly watchers and bird watchers can handle the web page those of you
who go on about all sorts of electronic stuff that leaves me in the dust ca=
n
manage it! The only ones who are going to have a problem are those who di=
d
not sign themselves up using a yahoo id and password but those people canno=
t
change their settings or anything else either.
Another security point is that the social engineering behind some of the
dangerous messages we are getting is getting better all the time. How many
of you have seen messages supposedly from your sys op saying that you have =
a
virus and trying to get you to either click a link or an attachment? How
many of you have got similar mail from something posing as a postmaster
returning mail? Even careful people are falling for these things. You ca=
n
say to keep your patches up to date and your Norton up to date but when
these things are new there is no patch and there is no Norton update for a
while. How many of you would open a forged message from naturrecordist wit=
h
the subject Listen to this. And the text "This is an interesting sound"
without a second thought. Even if it is an mp3 it can be a problem if
somebody malicious was behind the message. People are getting really lax
about opening anything that appears to come from a mailing list they are
on - that is not always safe. I always keep a window open to my Open BSD
Server to look at any mail with suspicious attachments. That way I can see
those I am not sure of and check the address path. If I did not have that
luxury I might have been tempted to open a few I got. As it is I did fall
for one - somebody got the addresses of the butterfly people of a computer
and forged a message from one of them with a plausible title, message and
attachment name. I almost died when I saw that the message had contained a
virus. Fortunately the virus was old enough that somewhere along the way
Norton had stripped it. (With my son working on the university computer
security and old comp sci students of mine around I would never hear the en=
d
of it and take a lot more abuse for not staying on UNIX)
Barb Beck
Edmonton
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