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Subject: intro, marsupial moles and minidisc/jukebox
From: "jbensh <>" <>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 02:18:15 -0000
Hi all,

I study marsupial moles in central Australia, and I am interested the 
sounds of these animals make underground and those of their food 
(insects etc).  Marsupial moles are true marsupials and quite 
unrelated to moles in europe and north america, and they are amongst 
the most elusive and poorly known mammals of the world.  They are 
mole-like in appearance and have a beautiful white silky fur, shovel 
shaped hands and are completely blind (not even optic nerve or eye 
sockets).  They hardly ever come to the surface and have been rarely 
recorded. Most specimens in museums have been obtained from 
aboriginal people.  Marsupial moles (or 'itjaritjari' the common 
name, derived from pitjantjatjara) make a living foraging in the deep 
sand of deserts of central australia, but virtually nothing is kbown 
about their lifestyle, habits or ecology.  They are also regarded as 
endangered and my work is aimed at their conservation.

One of the ways i am trying to learn about itjaritjari is to listen 
for them using grids of geophones.  Everything itjaritjari do 
underground makes some sound/vibration, and its a good bet that they 
use the sounds of other animals to hunt them too as internally their 
ears are well developed.  We have heard itjaritjari a few times, but 
the catch is that one often has to wait a long time before an 
itjaritjari comes along.  Currently, we are still doing the listening 
manually, but we have been building semi-automatic system that will 
go on and off at predetermined times.  This system will be controlled 
by a computer and record from up to 32 geophone channels 
simultaneously (effectively) so we should be able to triangulate and 
track the animals too.


Amongst all this I need to be able to make good quality recordings of 
what we hear in the geophone grids (itjaritjari moving and 
vocalising, insect and other potential food noises, etc).  I have 
been using a nagra 1/4" tape deck, but its an awkward medium and 
inconvenient.  I have been looking at some of the pros and cons of 
replacing this with digital, but I can't really afford a DAT.  So I'm 
trying to decide between a portable minidisc recorder or something 
like the nomad jukebox 3.   However, I am a little wary of minidisc 
because the compression is lossy and may miss more subtle parts of a 
signal.  In this regard recording undergrounds sounds as WAV files is 
probably an advantage, which the jukebox does.  The jukebox with 20 
or 40Gb would also provide a means to download the geophone computer 
in the field, and is also attractive from the point of view that it 
would be easier to protect from sand in the field and boasts a 98db 
signal-noise ratio.  

Anyway, i don't have any experience with either of these gadgets and 
could do with some advice. 

cheers

joe     

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Joe Benshemesh
Alice Springs, NT 0870
Email: 
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