When you purchase the software you will be able to down load a self
extracting exe file. This file can be copied to a CD and then copied to
the Laptop.
Wil Hershberger
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Subject: [Nature Recordists] Cool Edit
I wish to purchase Cool Edit 2000. It appears that the software can
only be down loaded off of the net. I want to put it on a portable pc
which has no internet connection. Any idea as to how this can be done?
Richard
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 18:59:29 -0800
From: Joe P <>
Subject: Re: Sony B100? (and beginners equipment in general)
Thanks for the reply, Walt.
I think I know your answer to this one, but I just have to ask. What
about the Marantz PMD430 analog cassette recorder? It's affordable,
seems to have good features, and must be at least somewhat reliable
since it's still being sold almost 20 years after being introduced.
The thought of using cassette tape with all it's faults and pitfalls
kind of creeps me out. But still, I know much excellent work has been
done using such equipment.
So how about it. If it comes down to a choice between a consumer MD
recorder and a pro analog cassette deck, which would you recommend?
--
Joe P
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 20:13:46 -0500
Walter Knapp <> wrote:
> Joe P wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm new to the group and new to nature recording. I am interested
> > in recording natural (and not so natural) soundscapes for use in
> > some music and art projects I have in mind.
> >
> > I have a modest home studio equipped with a computer, sound card
> > (Delta 44), and editing software (CoolEdit 2000, Sonar, Acid,
> > SoundForge, etc.) But I have no equipment for field recording.
> > I've been searching the web looking for equipment ideas and have
> > come to the conclusion that minidisc is probably the best choice for
> > what I want to do.
> >
> > Of the pro units, I can't justify the cost of the HHb Portadisc.
> > The Marantz PMD650 is a little more affordable, but still puts a big
> > hurt on my wallet. (As an aside, I don't see many comments from
> > people using the PMD650. Is there something wrong with that unit?)
>
> The Marantz is a much older design than the Portadisc. It uses a older
>
> version of Atrac encoding, though still a good one. It is my
> understanding that the Marantz is somewhat of a battery hog.
>
> I have the Portadisc. I'm very happy with it. It's a recordist's
> machine, playback is relatively simple, all the bells and whistles are
>
> for recording. A excellent field recorder.
>
> Currently minidisc is a established technology and works very well
> indeed. The tape formats are rapidly on their way out. There are some
> solid state or hard disk based recorders showing up, but they are not
> there yet to my mind. Some aspects of those recorders will be very
> hard to fix as you are moving from inexpensive media that's archival
> quality in minidisc to "media" that's both expensive and only
> temporary storage. And the recorders tend to be much more tied to
> computers, it's hard to think of taking a long foray somewhere in the
> world with one without having to have a computer along too.
>
> > What about the Sony MZ-B100? From the pictures it seems to have a
> > larger display and larger controls than most consumer models. It
> > seems to honor functionality over looking cool. But the emphasis on
> > "business" use scares me a little. I can easily ignore features
> > that I don't care about like the voice operated recording (can be
> > turned off), the built in mics (has an external mic jack), and the
> > built in speaker. But are there other "features" which would make it
> > unsuitable for field recording natural environments? Is the
> > recording level manually adjustable? Are the mic preamps excessively
> > noisy or do they have a frequency response tailored to voice? Does
> > anyone have any experience with this unit?
>
> I don't know this one. I used a Sony MZ-R30 before getting the
> Portadisc. In comparison the electronics are somewhat noisier, and
> much easier to overload. It's a little more challenging to do good
> recording with a consumer minidisc, and there are a range of things
> that are hard to even attempt. You can get good recordings using
> consumer minidisc.
>
> The MZ-B100 is a business machine in more than name. Looking through
> some stuff on it I got the impression it may go into agc with only a
> two level manual switch for mic gain adjust. If so, it will be useless
> for the sort of recording you want. You need full manual record
> settings, they don't have to be on the fly, can just be when in record
> pause. But you need them. In addition there appear to be motor noises
> to contend with.
>
> You might want to look at the links off here:
> http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MZ-B100.html
>
> Note that the various forms of ATRAC can get confusing. For nature
> recording the LP modes and their associated ATRAC are not useful. You
> want the regular record mode, the one that will give you the time
> printed on the disks, a max of 80 minutes. Some newer models, like the
>
> NetMD models, for instance, don't give you that mode in all functions.
>
> > Does anyone have any suggestions for other equipment I should look
> > into(minidisc or otherwise)? My budget is about US$1000. I'd
> > prefer to include mics in that budget, but if need be, a friend has
> > offered to let me use his AT shotgun mic and I have some studio mics
> > that could be pressed into service until I decide on something more
> > appropriate.
>
> I expect you will find the AT shotgun fairly noisy. Your biggest
> problem with the studio mics will be that most are probably phantom
> power, balanced, XLR connected. Consumer minidisc uses unbalanced
> inputs and cannot supply phantom power. So you will need at least a
> portable power supply if not a preamp. The other problem with some
> studio mics is that they may not like being outside in the humidity,
> etc.
>
> It's not a bad idea to start in with the mics you have available. The
> more experience you can gain before laying out money on mics the
> better your choices will serve you.
>
> Soundscape recording is in some ways more challenging than call
> recording. At least the kind where you are trying to get it as it is.
> For a call you can do a lot of filtering to bring it out. For
> Soundscape, you pretty much want everything, making your filtering
> options limited. You much more have to get the recording in the
> beginning. I expect you will find this pushes you right along on
> upgrading equipment.
>
> Walt
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