Kelly's Sunday at dusk

To: 'Michael Lenz' <>
Subject: Kelly's Sunday at dusk
From: Philip Veerman <>
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 01:03:05 +0000

Thanks for your reply. It comes down a lot to the words used that in this case are there to give impressions, rather than to be completely precise. Fair point that my “very unusual” might overstate an impression. Maybe “perhaps not that unusual” doesn’t negate it either. The Black-fronted Dotterel maybe is our most common wader species and although many waders like to be in big, single or mixed species flocks, I believe this one usually occurs as singles or pairs along parts of river banks or small dams or swamps.




From: Michael Lenz [ Sent: Wednesday, 9 May, 2018 5:42 PM          To: Philip Veerman            Cc: Geoffrey Dabb; chatline
Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Kelly's Sunday at dusk


Congregations of Black-fronted Dotterels perhaps not that unusual, for example 26 in one flock on 20 Aug 2017 at the Southern Morass (Lake Bathurst).


Michael Lenz


On 9 May 2018 at 16:59, Philip Veerman <> wrote:

I just checked in HANZAB about this. Prompted by that I thought that BfD is usually in pairs or small groups. (I can’t recall ever seeing such a group.)  HANZAB confirms this but does list some reports of congregations, Sufficiently few reports to demonstrate that such gatherings as in Geoffrey’s photo, are very unusual, though with precedent. Maybe there was a super hero convention in progress.


 From: Geoffrey Dabb [ Sent: Wednesday, 9 May, 2018 9:44 AM          To:        Subject: FW: [canberrabirds] Kelly's Sunday at dusk

I didn’t report it at the time but on 28 April (the fox day) there was a group of 16 plus BFDs in the shallows of the billabong area,  While I was there one of them was complaining about the shop where they got their Zorro costumes.

From: Philip Veerman [ Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2018 10:51 PM        To: 'COG List' Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Kelly's Sunday at dusk

I was also there, for only about 20 minutes at dusk on Sunday 6 May, in Ardea hide. I noted, among the more usual: 4 Black-fronted Dotterels, 1 Spotted Crake and something like 100 Common Starlings coming in to roost in the reeds. I don’t recall seeing this reed roosting by Starlings there before, maybe due to not been there at dusk often, although it is hardly anything new.



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