If John (Leonard) is referring to reporting on eBird, the question would be best addressed to eBird, rather than to this chatline.
WLAB, which gives English names for subspecies, is as follows. –
Happily, on this occasion the subspecies are in agreement with those given on IOC -
The hard-pressed author of the English (Australia) option on eBird offers the following –
Presumably observers entering Crimson Rosella (Crimson) are choosing that item. On this point, eBird is not aiming at taxonomic precision but trying to be
helpful to the average user. Clearly more than one subspecies is included in ‘Crimson Rosella (Crimson)’. Those who prefer a simple life, can just tick ‘Crimson Rosella’.
From: John Harris [
Sent: Tuesday, 20 March 2018 7:26 AM
To: calyptorhynchus .; Canberra Birds
Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Crimson Crimson Rosellas
I presume it to mean subspecies. I am one who is very annoyed by the standardising of names and the loss of good old fashioned Yellow Rosella, Adelaide Rosella etc which we have happily used without any confusion at all for 200 years. Now they
are all sub species of the Crimson Rosella and we are supposed to report them as such. The ssp is I presume to make sure we all understand this highly technical distinction that the Crimson Rosella (Crimson) [ssp Crimson] is a sub species of the Crimson Rosella.
I understand that the Yellow Rosellas are quite annoyed at not being Yellow and at this loss of their distinctive name and do not wish to be lumped in with Crimson Rosellas (Crimson)[ssp Crimson].
From: calyptorhynchus . <>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 6:49:10 AM
To: Canberra Birds
Subject: [canberrabirds] Crimson Crimson Rosellas
