FW: [canberrabirds] The Wild Suburban Frontier

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Subject: FW: [canberrabirds] The Wild Suburban Frontier
From: Geoffrey Dabb <>
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 01:06:18 +0000

Ah, yes Mark.  Got me. Noisy Miner.  I must be more careful.  Those interested in the curious relationship between ‘miner’ and ‘myna’  should read the note on that matter in Fraser & Gray 2013 p.193.


I might add that in only the last 5 years, in this area, have miner numbers come to exceed myna numbers. In view of previous exchanges,  I hesitate to raise the question whether that is a development to be welcomed.


From: Mark Clayton [
Sent: Thursday, 1 March 2018 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] The Wild Suburban Frontier


Gee Geoffrey,

I am now most concerned with how the authorities will react to this apparent hybridising of the Noisy Miner and the Common Myna. What name will the Birdlife Australia mob give to this "new" species? Don't forget to send this to the people at ABRS/CAVS so that they can give it an official number!!

Yours (very much tongue in cheek),



On 1/03/2018 6:36 PM, Geoffrey Dabb wrote:

Two advancing species from different planets (well, habitats) have begun to interact in my notional GBS area: bowerbirds and noisy mynas.  Another advancer is becoming more prominent –  grey butcherbird (x2).



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