Feral and irresponsibly owned Cats

To: 'Geoffrey Dabb' <>, "" <>
Subject: Feral and irresponsibly owned Cats
From: Alison <>
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 12:00:14 +0000

Thanks Geoffrey, I agree.


I have also (responsibly) owned cats and I think that cats are earning an ill-deserved reputation to some degree. They certainly cannot be blamed for their natural instincts and are not the only predators of native birds.


As for Mark’s comment about a domestic cat killing a Crested Pigeon, while I don’t approve of cats killing any birds, Crested Pigeons are a complete nuisance in my area as there are far too many.


From: Geoffrey Dabb [
Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2017 7:38 PM
Subject: FW: [canberrabirds] Feral and irresponsibly owned Cats


Yes Mark  -  I think most will agree with your sentiments, although I think we should bear in mind that some COG/chatline members will own a cat.


The blurring of ‘feral (gone wild) cats’ with wandering domestic (irresponsibly owned) cats is likely to blur also the policy response.  They raise separate issues. The former are to be exterminated.  The latter (setting aside DIY counter-measures by those with the inclination) are a major problem to which the resources of the state (or territory) are yet to be brought to bear in a serious way.


From: Mark Clayton
Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2017 6:44 PM
To: 'David Rees'; 'Fleur r Leary'
Cc: 'canberrabirds'
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Feral Cats


As far as I am concerned ANY cat outside the confines of its owners house is a feral cat. I have been plagued by a Siamese cat whose owner doesn’t care if it wanders or not. If I catch it this moggie will be learning to swim on the bottom of Lake Ginninderra. I know that this cat has killed at least one Crested Pigeon in my backyard and I have seen it at least 500 metres from its owners house. The only bell that will work on cats is Big Ben!! If people don’t like that then too bad, I am sick of seeing wandering cats around my local area. All cats need to be desexed!!




From: David Rees
Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2017 6:35 PM
To: Fleur r Leary
Cc: canberrabirds
Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Feral Cats


Could it be that by reducing the number of domestic cats 'out and about' in such suburbs you make it easier for feral cats to take advantage of the vacuum. 


On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Fleur r Leary <> wrote:

Regrettably even in so called “cat containment” suburbs, cats are out and about …...



On 7 Oct 2017, at 10:34 PM, steven <> wrote:


Sad story about the phascogale, I also havr never seen a live one, let alone a dead one. Perhaps governments won't go overly public about the feral cat problem because there's just a touch of animal sentiment involved, i.e. cats are familiar as a pet to so many people. It wouldn't take much to inflate this small amount of vague sentiment for moggies to a raging 'anti-cull' protest., thus making the whole venture politically unsavoury. Brumbies may be a useful analogy. The birds which fall victims on the other hand are varied and diverse, whereas what the cause needs is a simple poster-child that people can relate to. Perhaps we should use a few well-known species of bird which are commonly taken by cats to promote their cause.




Sent from my Samsung GALAXY S5

-------- Original message --------
From: Suzanne EDGAR <> 
Date: 7/10/2017 7:19 PM (GMT+10:00) 
To: 'canberrabirds' <> 
Subject: FW: [canberrabirds] Feral Cats 

I realise.



From: Suzanne EDGAR  
Sent: Saturday, 7 October 2017 7:11 PM
To: 'Alan Cowan' <>; 'canberrabirds' <m("","canberrabirds");" target="_blank">>
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Feral Cats


Have 4 different cats invading my bird sanctuary back yard currently, @ different times



From: Alan Cowan [m("","alancowan29");" target="_blank">] 
Sent: Thursday, 5 October 2017 3:21 PM
To: canberrabirds <m("","canberrabirds");" target="_blank">>
Subject: [canberrabirds] Feral Cats


Most people don't realise the numbers of feral cats in Canberra.

At my previous home in an inner suburb I regularly put out a possum trap baited with meat overnight and regularly caught large feral cats. In addition to birds, they also destroy small mammals, frogs, reptiles etc. I remember an acquaintance in WA laughing genially when their cat brought in a dead phascogale. It was the only one I have ever seen.

No-one in government seems too worried. A couple of years ago it was announced that a specific person had been appointed by government in the field of feral predators. I contacted this person and pointed out that the South African National Antarctic Expeditions  service had eradicated cats from subantarctic Marion Island by introducing a cat influenza virus. He seemed uninterested. Most subantarctic islands are infested with cats. Macquarie is the shining exception, after much expensive work.

Barry Cohen who was a federal Labour government minister some years ago did show a keen interest at one time in the feral cat problem.

It's hard to know whether foxes or cats are worse: foxes are more conspicuous but feral cats are common and widespread. Both are undoubtedly appallingly destructive. It is hardly surprising that the Painted Button-quail, a ground nester, is only occasionally present in the Stirling Park woodland: it is amazing that they ever maintain a presence there at all. My friend David Hollands who has spent much time in the outback searching for raptors' nests tells me that it is a common experience to find one occupied by cats.

Would the COG consider doing some work on this problem?

Alan Cowan



<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>
  • Feral and irresponsibly owned Cats, Alison <=

The University of NSW School of Computer and Engineering takes no responsibility for the contents of this archive. It is purely a compilation of material sent by many people to the Canberra Ornithologists Group mailing list. It has not been checked for accuracy nor its content verified in any way. If you wish to get material removed from the archive or have other queries about the list contact David McDonald, list manager, phone (02) 6231 8904 or email . If you can not contact David McDonald e-mail Andrew Taylor at this address: andrewt@cse.unsw.EDU.AU