Sorry, I am confused. Who or what is the specific opinions from
Geoffrey and Phil
that Sue agrees with? Or is that Paul? It is really hard without a context or a description of size. I can’t get to
Greater sand plover or even close to it, for the first photo. As for 2 yes either Knots look possible, surely Red Knot is the more likely.
As for 3, I have never knowingly seen a Sanderling but it sure looks like a possibility on the photo, dependent on no hind toe of course! (Although more likely to be a pale R-n Stint).
From: Sue Lashko [
Sent: Sunday, 1 January, 2017 11:04 PM
To: Paul Gatenby
Cc: Geoffrey Dabb;
Subject: Re: FW: [canberrabirds] Shorebirds at Brou Lake NSW
I agree with Geoffrey and Phil about the first 2 photos. Maree, can you send a full size 3rd photo to me , please - not to the chatline as it will exceed the 100mB limit. I think it is a stint even though the bill looks a little long
for a stint, but it could just be the angle. Also it doesn't seem pale grey enough for a Sanderling and not enough white around the face. Also it's hard to see the margins of the feathers - more white on edges in Sanderling. It's also a little known fact
that Sanderlings have 3 toes and no hind toe and Bird 3 seems to have a hind toe on the foot that is out of the water.
As for photo 1 - plovers have chunky bills compared to sandpipers, stints and knots. Stints are the smallest of the shorebirds, along with Red-capped Plovers.
re photo 2 - Red Knots are most common on the South Coast but you do find a few Great Knots amongst them at times. The main distinguishing features of the Great Knot are its "barrel" chest, longer bill, slightly bigger size (but this is
not always reliable as there is quite a size variation within a lot of shorebird species), and more and darker markings on the breast. Also Red Knots are much more uniformly grey on the back.
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On 1 January 2017 at 22:16, Paul Gatenby <> wrote:
Hi Maree
I have the advantage of being to Lake Brou today with a telescope and of discussing birds and photos with colleagues from the Eurobodalla Natural History Society who had been there today or yesterday.
I think the first birds are Red-necked stints, the small birds between Godwits are Red Knots, they were much larger than Stints and the last very white bird is a Sanderling
Other birds there were Red-capped Plovers, Sharp-tailed Sandpipers, Curlew Sandpipers and Ruddy Turnstones.
Regards
Paul A Gatenby AM
Professor Emeritus
ANU Medical School
From: Geoffrey Dabb <>
Sent: Sunday, 1 January 2017 7:51 PM
To:
Subject: FW: FW: [canberrabirds] Shorebirds at Brou Lake NSW
Aha thank you Maree - well of course I shall defer to Sue, but all the smaller birds look like Red-necked Stints, a species that
can appear teasingly unusual, depending on the setting and what it is with.
From: Maree Philip
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Sent: Sunday, 1 January 2017 7:38 PM
To: Geoffrey Dabb; Sue Lashko
Cc: canberrabirds chatline
Subject: Re: FW: [canberrabirds] Shorebirds at Brou Lake NSW
My gestimate going on recent sitings on eBird as well as bill length and size are:
Great knot - similar size, bill length
possibly a Sanderling similar size bill shape and overall size.
Unfortunately I did not have a scope on hand.
On Sun, 1 Jan 2017 at 7:17 pm, Sue Lashko <> wrote:
who would say to Maree - what do you think they are? and why? Start with size and bill length.
On 1 January 2017 at 19:09, Geoffrey Dabb <> wrote:
This is a time for … SHOREBIRDSBOOKLETPERSON …. !!
From: Maree Philip
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Sent: Sunday, 1 January 2017 6:36 PM
To:
Subject: [canberrabirds] Shorebirds at Brou Lake NSW
Hi,
ID on smaller birds between bartailed godwits
??
Sent from Mimfilip on the run
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