Re: Re: [canberrabirds] What do you do with your bird photos?

[Martin Butterfield <>]

Add Atlas of Living Australia to Con's list.

From my perspective it would be a really good idea if the administrators of these groups got together and exchanged data so that there was a single repository.  Unfortunately there are two major problems with such an arrangement:

1. The various repositories serve different sets of members and thus have different objectives and content; and
   
2. In many cases sharing content erodes a power base and is thus repulsive to the managers of the content.
   

I have my own view as to which of these traits is the dominant one.

Martin

Martin

Martin Butterfield

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On 6 November 2015 at 08:32, Con Boekel <> wrote:

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Subject:	Re: [canberrabirds] What do you do with your bird photos?
Date:	Thu, 5 Nov 2015 21:11:29 +1100
From:	David McDonald (personal)
To:	Con Boekel

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this, Con.

You are so correct, there are many different repositories for birding photographs.

The fantastic thing about this new initiative from Cornell is that it associates the photographs with the list of birds observed, and the location and time when they were observed.

The bottom line seems to be that we have no idea how scientists, in the future, will use these kind of data. The feeling is, however, that just having photographs sitting in archives will not be as valuable as having them associated with list of birds observed at identified locations, in particular habitats, at particular times of the day and year, observed by people with particular levels of skill, in particular weather, etc. etc. etc.

I just find it a really exciting prospect!

Best wishes – David

On 5/11/2015 8:57 PM, Con Boekel wrote:

Hi David

Interesting link.

These are the current major options that I am aware of.

As far as I am aware anyone could upload the same option to all of these options.

BirdLife Australia
The Internet Bird Collection
The Oriental Bird Club
Flickr groups
Avibase
eBird

I acknowledge that I do not know why, should you decide to upload just the once, any of these options might superior to others.

regards

Con

On 5/11/2015 7:54 PM, David McDonald (personal) wrote:

In recent years CanberraBirds has gradually changed from what it was originally intended to be, an information dissemination and discussion list, to one which also provides a place for birders cum photographers to share their photographs.

Although that has been found unsatisfactory by some, to me it is a natural development reflecting what is happening with digital technology.

The fantastic people at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology who are responsible for eBird and the Macaulay Library have also noticed this trend and have thought long and hard about it.

The consequence is that they are developing what they call the 'next generation tools for rich media'. At its heart is incorporating bird photos into eBird checklists:

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It allows eBird, the Cornell Lab, and its global partners to engage emerging communities of nature enthusiasts. Today many people are connecting with birds for the first time through the camera lens, rather than through binoculars. In many places around the world, vibrant communities are springing up around bird photography. While taking photos of birds is fun, and sharing them with others is rewarding, our challenge is to capture this information in a way that is most useful for science and conservation. To accomplish this, we need to build tools that engage these new communities and help them to enjoy what they love to do (share bird photos), while at the same time help steer them toward becoming better eBirders and scientists in the process. Through the tools we’re developing, we hope to provide an exciting atmosphere for people to share and learn, while also emphasizing how to make your contributions most valuable for science. This next generation of naturalists can capitalise on the strengths of the fun side of eBird, while contributing their rich media to a rapidly growing digital natural history collection.
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Interested? Read more at http://ebird.org/content/australia/news/ebird-and-macaulay-library-next-generation-tools-for-rich-media/ .

And do consider sharing your images not just on this list, where they are seen one day but then gone, making no contribution to science. If you attach your photos to your eBird checklists, they are archived and publicly available into the future, and will be used by scientists in ways that we cannot imagine at present.

And it boosts your role as a citizen scientist on top of your role as a bird photographer.

Just a thought - David

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