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From: Geoffrey Dabb <>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:51:58 +0000
Thank you for all your continuing work on this David.

The only reason for having an archive I can see is that it is a source of 
information to be consulted by anyone interested in past contributions.  Many 
questions raised on the chatline can be answered, far more effectively than by 
relying on the possibility of an answer from someone's memory, by a few minutes 
spent searching the archive.

I might also raise again the issue about past Canberra Bird Notes not being 
searchable in the same way.  Before the redesigned website it was convenient to 
be able to search the whole CBN collection.  This no longer possible.  The 
ability to search a PDF of a single CBN issue is almost useless, as the problem 
to be addressed is finding just which half-remembered issue - and which other 
issues - might have had information about a particular bird species.  I note 
the website claims the CBNs are 'fully searchable'.   Perhaps I am missing 
something.

-----Original Message-----
From: David McDonald 
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 4:49 PM
To: CanberraBirds
Subject: The CanberraBirds list archive

Greetings. I have recently been contacted by a subscriber to this list who had 
apparently just become aware that emails distributed via the list are stored in 
the list archive which can be accessed online at 
http://bioacoustics.cse.unsw.edu.au/archives/html/canberrabirds . They 
expressed concern that their email address was visible in the archive as part 
of emails that they had posted to the list.

The person who hosts the archive for COG, and I, both explained that, although 
a person browsing the archive can see the email addresses, the email addresses 
are actually camouflaged in such a way that it is difficult for spammers and 
others to harvest email addresses from the archive.

Until last year this also prevented Google indexing email addresses in the 
archive.  Google recently adopted more sophisticating methods for scanning web 
pages and did commence indexing them.  Our archive maintainer has now taken 
action that will stop Google from indexing the email addresses in the archive. 
It will probably take a couple more weeks for Google's cache to be updated, 
meaning that email addresses retrieved from the archive will appear in Google's 
indexes for a little while longer.

The content of emails in the archive will remains searchable by Google, and a 
human visiting the pages of the archive following a link provided by Google 
search will still be able to see e-mail addresses.

It has been suggested that information about the contents of the archive are 
not communicated sufficiently explicitly to people when they subscribe to the 
list. The availability of the material in the archive is actually mentioned in 
the header or footer of all emails distributed via the list, and in COG's 
publications. It is frequently mentioned in emails distributed via the list.

Nevertheless, as list manager I want to make sure that all subscribers are 
aware of the archive and of how it operates. If you have any concerns, please 
contact me directly at  rather than 
replying to the 310 subscribers to this list. It is possible for us to delete 
your email address from emails currently in the archive or, alternatively, to 
delete your emails entirely if you prefer that course of action. Since all 
emails distributed via the list are archived, if this is not acceptable to you 
please either leave the list by sending a blank email to 
 or cease sending emails to the 
list address.

I have amended the information at the list's web page 
http://canberrabirds.org.au/publications/discussion-email-list/ , and in the 
'welcome' message that people receive upon subscribing, to clarify that 
material distributed over the list is stored in the archive and is publicly 
available there for perusal.

As mentioned above, if you wish to follow up on this matter please contact me 
directly.

Best wishes -€“ David

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David McDonald
Canberra Ornithologists Group email lists manager
1004 Norton Road, Wamboin, NSW 2620, Australia
Tel:    (02) 6238 3706
Fax:    (02) 9475 4274
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