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Re: [Birding-Aus] Turquoise Parrots.

To: Canberra Birds <>
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Turquoise Parrots.
From: "calyptorhynchus ." <>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 20:03:10 +1100
The nearest place to Canberra where they are regular is the Weddin Mountains NR, nr Grenfell.

John Leonard

On 21 January 2015 at 18:05, Allan Richardson <> wrote:
The Warrumbungles on the NSW western slopes is very reliable for Turquoise Parrots.

Allan Richardson
Morisset NSW

> On 21 Jan 2015, at 2:10 pm, eBird ACT <> wrote:
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> These would almost certainly be Red-rumped Parrots. Turks are a very rare species in the ACT and are never seen in these numbers.
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> On 21 Jan 2015, at 13:38, Ken and Helen <> wrote:
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> On 21/01/2015 10:26 AM, Ken and Helen wrote:
>> On 21/01/2015 1:00 AM, wrote:
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>>> RE Topic 7, Location of Turquoise Parrots. .
> Dear Pieter,
> Reliable Location for the Turquoise Parrot is  from the fire-break /walkway at the rear of Allchin Crescent, Kambah, ACT.
> I sighted over 70 of them from Jan 17th -19th. They were almost as common as the Eastern  Rosellas and the Crimson Rosellas.
> Ken Monson.
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>>>   1. Re: Kingfisher Park Birdwatchers Lodge rumours (David Clark)
>>>   2. Locations wanted for Regent Honeyeater in summer (Dean Ingwersen)
>>>   3. RFI SIPO (Noel Luff)
>>>   4. Fwd: Re: Nineteenth Century Acclimatisation Societies Weren't
>>>      Too Bright (brian fleming)
>>>   5. White-rumped Sandpiper (James Mustafa)
>>>   6. RFI SIPO (Noel Luff)
>>>   7. Turquoise Parrot best spots? (eagleowl22)
>>>   8. Australasian Grebe brooding young on nest (Andrew Taylor)
>>>   9. Re: Australasian Grebe brooding young on nest (Sonja Ross)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 22:46:31 +1100
>>> From: David Clark <>
>>> To: Kingfisher Park Birdwatchers Lodge <>
>>> Cc: birding Aus <>
>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Kingfisher Park Birdwatchers Lodge rumours
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>>> Lindsay and Keith
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>>> We have only stayed once at Kingfisher Lodge but we have been following
>>> developments since you announced your intention to take a step back.  It
>>> seems that the best possible outcome has been put in train and we're
>>> looking forward to making another trip north to enjoy Kingfisher Lodge and
>>> its surroundings.
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>>> Best wishes for your retirement.
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>>> Cheers
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>>> David
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>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Kingfisher Park Birdwatchers Lodge <
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>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>
>>>> We know there have been plenty of rumours going round the last month about
>>>> Kingfisher Park Birdwatchers Lodge being sold, well it has not quite
>>>> happened yet but barring any last minute dramas the settlement will be on
>>>> 4^th February. Both the business and the freehold property is going to
>>>> transfer into the safe hands of Carol & Andrew Iles, who many of you will
>>>> know as our neighbours and local bird guides. We will be retiring to our
>>>> house which is only 8 minutes from the Lodge.
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>>>> So after almost 10 years we are handing over to Carol and Andrew who first
>>>> visited the Lodge in 1998 and were the resident bird guides at the Lodge
>>>> from 2000 for four years. They have been living next door for four years
>>>> and have again become bird guides both for the Lodge and their own guiding
>>>> business. Theyplan to do their utmost to maintain and improve the Lodge and
>>>> grounds as somewhere for wildlife, especially the birds and birders, to
>>>> enjoy for years to come and look forward to welcoming new guests and the
>>>> long-time faithful. They will bring a wealth of knowledge and experience
>>>> both from our area and from around the world where they have birded in
>>>> about 100 countries. As we only owned the business and leased the property
>>>> we found it frustrating not to be able to up-grade the property ourselves,
>>>> this is something they intend doing. We wish them the very best in their
>>>> new life.
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>>>> Finally we would like to thank all of you who have visited the Lodge over
>>>> our time here, it has been most rewarding meeting all the fantastic birders
>>>> and wildlife enthusiasts. We have enjoyed sharing a little of the wildlife
>>>> in our wonderful part of the world and trust you will support the new
>>>> owners.
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>>>> Cheers.
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>>>> Lindsay & Keith
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 11:58:30 +0000
>>> From: Dean Ingwersen <>
>>> To: "" <m("birding-aus.org","birding-aus");">>,
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>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Locations wanted for Regent Honeyeater in
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>>> Hi Peter,
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>>> Yes, unfortunately the size of a Regent Honeyeater means it is still too small to wear appropriate tracking equipment.  The biggest Regent weighs around 45 grams, and according to ethics guidelines no species is to be fitted with a transmitter (including harness or other affixing material) weighing more than 5% of its body weight - which for the heaviest Regent is 2.25 grams.  Unfortunately the smallest satellite tracking transmitter weighs 5 grams.
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>>> They can comfortably wear radio-transmitters, and we use these for tracking birds post-release during our captive releases. They weigh about 1.9 grams when fitted, but these have a range of 1km at most and need to be 'manually'  monitored by an observer.  They also only last about 12 weeks before the battery goes flat.
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>>> The other thing we've considered are geolocators like those used on Ruddy Turnstones a few years ago by VWSG.  But these need to be recaptured for download (for Regents this would only be 1 in 10 banded birds which are resighted, and this can take up to 10 years!), and they only have an accuracy of +/- 100km from memory...which reduces their effectiveness.  And there is no 'realtime' data streaming anyway.
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>>> Hope that explains it.
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>>> Cheers, Dean
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>>> How come we can track godwits across the ocean but we can't track honeyeaters
>>> these relatively short distances? Are they too small to carry the necessary
>>> equipment?
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 06:49:12 +1100
>>> From: Noel Luff <>
>>> To: "" <m("birding-aus.org","birding-aus");">>
>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] RFI SIPO
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>>> Has there been any recent sighting?
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:45:50 +1100
>>> From: brian fleming <>
>>   Re Contents of Birding Australa Digest  21/1/2015.
>>        Location Of Turquoise Parrots.
>> Dear Pietre, I have just returned to Wa from  SE NSW and the ACT.
>> In Canberra  I was staying in  the suburb Kambah. At the rear of Allchin Crescent there is a fire-break/ walkway between the back of the houses and horsepaddocks and parkland.
>> The turquoise Parrots were almost as common as  the Eastern Rosellas and Crimson Rosellas. Over 3 days  I saw at least 70 of them. It is a reliable location.
>> Regards, Ken Monson.
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>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Fwd: Re: Nineteenth Century Acclimatisation
>>>   Societies Weren't Too Bright
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>>> Subject:     Re: [Birding-Aus] Nineteenth Century Acclimatisation Societies
>>> Weren't Too Bright
>>> Date:     Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:19:32 +1100
>>> From:     brian fleming <>
>>> To:     Laurie Knight <>
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>>>    House and Tree Sparrows were introduced to Australia for precisely
>>> the same reason - it was known that they fed their young mainly on
>>> caterpillars, and other insects, while people forgot that adult Sparrows
>>> are grain and seed-eaters.
>>>
>>>    Western Australia was most insistent that Sparrows should not be
>>> established there, and special precautions were taken to ensure that
>>> Sparrows did not follow the horse-teams working on the Trans-Australia
>>> Railway as it was built across the Nullarbor.  I believe the South
>>> Australian gangs worked out as far as they could, then all camps
>>> evacuated, and any surviving Sparrows were shot or poisoned. Then the
>>> WA gangs worked their way out to join up.  They still patrol for
>>> Sparrows and Starlings in the border region.
>>>    More details in Eric Rolls' excellent book "They all ran wild"..
>>> Anthea Fleming
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>>> On 19/01/2015 6:09 PM, Laurie Knight wrote:
>>>> A classic example is the transport of a grain-eating bunting to New Zealand for the supposed purpose of controlling insect pests ?
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>>>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/01/150116161533.htm
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 11:51:10 +1100
>>> From: James Mustafa <>
>>> To: "" <m("birding-aus.org","Birding-Aus");">>
>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] White-rumped Sandpiper
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>>> Going up for the WRSP tomorrow on my way to Sydney. Any recent tips or info
>>> on the bird?
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>>> All the best,
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>>> James Mustafa
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>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:18:29 +1100
>>> From: Noel Luff <>
>>> To: "" <m("birding-aus.org","birding-aus");">>,
>>>   "" <m("vicnet.net.au","birding-aus");">>
>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] RFI SIPO
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>>> has there been any recent sightings?
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>>> Noel Luff
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>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:30:46 +1000
>>> From: eagleowl22 <>
>>> To:
>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Turquoise Parrot best spots?
>>> Message-ID: <>
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>>> Hi people,?
>>>
>>> First of all a big thanks for getting back to me regarding info on the Regent Honeyeater. Diplist :(
>>>
>>> I've walked all day in the Girraween area looking for Turquoise Parrot, to no avail.
>>>
>>> The other spot I want to try is in the Capertee Valley.?
>>>
>>> Does anyone can tell me what my best bet will be, either there or any where else?
>>>
>>> Looking forward to your help,
>>>
>>> Best regards,?
>>>
>>> Pieter de Groot Boersma
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>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 20:18:35 +1100
>>> From: Andrew Taylor <>
>>> To:
>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Australasian Grebe brooding young on nest
>>> Message-ID: <>
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>>> I've recently made a couple of onservations of Australasian Grebe brooding
>>> young on their nest which don't quite fit the HANZAB description:
>>> "chicks brooded on the nest for night of hatching and for no longer".
>>>
>>> The grebes were at Tempe Ponds in the centre of Sydney very close to
>>> the airport.
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>>> On my first visit on the evening of 10th there were chicks present
>>> being brooded by an adult on their floating nest - the occasional head
>>> appearing was the only evidence chicks present.  I don't know when
>>> they hatched but but at least 2 chicks were present.
>>>
>>> On my 2nd visit on the evening of the 15th again the chicks were being
>>> brooded by an adult on their floating nest.  Another adult was diving
>>> nearby & when it brought food a chick would emerge, be fed, and then
>>> disappear out of sight under the brooding parent.  I saw only 3 chicks
>>> simultaneously.
>>>
>>> On my 3rd visit on the evening of 18th, 5 chicks were swimming
>>> with adults being fed. Near sunset they returned to nest and again were
>>> brooded under an adult - although they didn't entirely fit out of sight -
>>> perhaps because they were larger.
>>>
>>> HANZAB does elsewhere mention young using nest platform during first week
>>> with an adult so it may just be confusing wording.  Anyway interesting
>>> behaviour to watch.
>>>
>>> I've put some brief video clips here: http://youtu.be/Oa-lo47p4J8
>>>
>>> Andrew
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>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 20:25:56 +1100
>>> From: Sonja Ross <>
>>> To:
>>> Cc:
>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Australasian Grebe brooding young on nest
>>> Message-ID: <>
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>>> Thanks for sharing that, Andrew.  I enjoyed it, especially the section with the two chicks really wanting that food!
>>>
>>> Sonja
>>> On 20/01/2015, at 8:18 PM, Andrew Taylor <> wrote:
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