Avicide. When is a new word appropriate?

[David Rees <>]

Harvey

Thanks for that, had a look at this - maybe a way off yet and it may have problems in securing a patent(s) unless they have something fancy in their micro-encapsulation or fancy IP associated with its use, given that the active is a common chemical.  From experience, it is one thing to have a good idea (which this is) but another one to pay for all the tox data etc. required to register a pesticide and to convince a commercial entity to make and market it.  I wish them luck, and I do hope they have sound patents and a business plan. I've had experience with the development of new pesticides to market and beyond and I know how hard it is.

David

On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Harvey Perkins <> wrote:

Not yet - but the Invasive Animals Cooperative Research Centre (CRC) is currently working on developing an avicide for use in Starling control in the first instance.

Harvey

On 3 January 2015 at 11:20, David Rees <m("gmail.com","dprbirdlist");" target="_blank">> wrote:

David

To clear a few things up.

A quick check of the APVMA's database of pesticides registered in Australia  (via http://apvma.gov.au/) indicates that there are currently no avicides currently registered for use to kill birds in Australia.  However "Minor use' permits exist to use Alphacloralose for the destruction of Common Mynas - however they appear to apply only to approved officers in TAS and QLD and to one pest control company operating in Sydney.  No such permit appears to have been granted for Canberra and for general use in NSW.  There is nothing stopping a licenced person or a 'body corporate' applying for one to use here via the usual processes. To use a pesticide contrary to the label or permit (if applicable) is illegal and that would include using rodent bait to kill any birds - including pest species.

David Rees

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 3:40 PM, David McDonald (personal) <m("dnmcdonald.id.au","david");" target="_blank">> wrote:

Quotations, my emphases:

From the Oxford English Dictionary. A nonce word is one that appears just once, apparently coined for the occasion.

avicide, n.
Pronunciation:  /ˈævɪsaɪd/
Etymology:  < Latin avis bird + -cide comb. form2.
nonce-wd.
The slaughter of birds, bird-shooting.
1834   L. Hunt in London Jrnl. No. 22   A stout fellow, in a jacket and gaiters and the rest of the costume of avicide.
This entry has not yet been fully updated (first published 1885).

Fom Wikipedia:

An avicide is any substance (normally, a chemical) which can be used to kill birds.
Commonly used avicides include strychnine, DRC-1339 (3-chloro-4-methylaniline hydrochloride, Starlicide) and CPTH (3-chloro-p-toluidine, the free base of Starlicide), and Avitrol (4-aminopyridine). Chloralose is also used as an avicide. In the past, highly concentrated formulations of parathion in diesel oil were also used, applied by aircraft spraying over the nesting colonies of the birds.[1]

From OUP's A Dictionary of Environment and Conservation (2013):

A pesticide which can be used to kill birds

Regards - David

On 31/12/2014 2:27 PM, Martin Butterfield wrote:

If one wished to develop a less human focused word one could add "icide" to a latin word meaning offspring.  Consulting an on-line dictionary I got three words for offspring : foetus; fetus and subolis.   The use of foetus seems a tad confusing as in mammals it is now used mainly to cover young before birth.  

So perhaps "subolicide" would fit the bill (or indeed The Bill).

Martin

Martin Butterfield

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On 31 December 2014 at 07:14, Martin Butterfield <> wrote:

Fratricide - brother killing - would seem to be adopting a term usually referring to evilness by humans.  So why not adopt the term for humans killing their children "infanticide"?

Martin

Martin Butterfield

http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/

On 31 December 2014 at 06:56, n/a n/a <> wrote:

The male Musk Duck (Biziura lobata) is said to predate its own young. What does HANZAB say? What other nestlings / immatures is it known to predate? Fratricide has been used to describe Kookaburra nestlings killing siblings, so when an adult bird kills and eats its own young is that avicide? How common is avicide, e.g. among Australian Magpies and Black Swans? What word best descibes this situation? What other waterbirds may predate the young of all members of the Rallidae?

Bill Graham