FW: [canberrabirds] Red-browed finches along Ginninderra Creek Umbagagog

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Subject: FW: [canberrabirds] Red-browed finches along Ginninderra Creek Umbagagog Park
From: "Wallaces" <>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 12:57:50 +1000
Sorry, the link corrupted when I sent it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Wallaces  
Sent: Monday, 7 July 2014 12:38 PM
Subject: Red-browed finches along Ginninderra Creek
Umbagagog Park

Some information from the COG general database.


-----Original Message-----
From: John Harris 
Sent: Monday, 7 July 2014 10:36 AM
To: Nick Payne; 
Subject: Red-browed finches along Ginninderra Creek
Umbagagog Park

Both Red-browed Finches and Double-barred Finches are common in the tall
grasses of the Ginninderra Creek flood plain, especially where there is
surrounding shrubbery.
At G Creek in Nicholls, behind my place there are 40+ RBF which are the
largest component of the Mixed Feeding Flock around here. According to the
COG Annual Report, RBF are on the increase. There are about 20 Double Barred
Fs which I am glad to see because the same COG report suggests they are
declining although there were more in the garden bird survey.I am fairly
convinced that a factor is the loss of grassland and low shrubbery along the
creeks. Both species require seeding grasses to feed on. While I applaud the
number of constructed wetlands in Gungahlin, the plans do not always include
the retention of native grasses. The ponds are often associated with public
green areas which the authorities often prefer to mow right to the creek
banks. The little Crace wetland for example, while I appreciate it for
Crakes and other interesting waterbirds, is surrounded by concrete paths
etc. Grass appears to be being encouraged on the western side of the new
Valley Ponds at Gungahlin and I am hopeful for it, as I am for some of the
smaller ponds and wetlands happening on the fringes of Gungahlin suburbs
which are more generally left alone and grasses and shrubbery allowed to

On 7/07/2014 7:49 am, "Nick Payne" <> wrote:

>On 06/07/14 11:53, David Churches wrote:
>> Flock of 20+ feeding along Ginninderra Creek near Stepping Stones at 
>> Latham
>The last couple of times that we've ridden along East Tallagandra Lane 
>between Sutton and Mulligans Flat Road, we've seen a flock of 15-20 
>Double-Barred Finches up towards the Mulligans Flat end of the road. We 
>used to see them around Canberra quite regularly, but they seem to have 
>become less common over the past 25-30 years.
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