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Widgeon/pigeon?? ?

To: "'John Layton'" <>, "'Canberra Birds'" <>
Subject: Widgeon/pigeon?? ?
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:35:20 +1100
Yes it happens all the time when we inherit a name given to one species in England that needs to be expanded when there are later found to be many species that are sort of similar, in other parts of the world. Another good example, the Cuckoo was no doubt named for the one species that migrates to England. Then lots more cuckoos were found, not all of which make a "cuckoo" sound. At some time someone decided on a general principle to give different species the same group names. Often in error, like our magpies and warblers when they are not related and sometimes correctly when they are. The question arises where do we draw the dividing lines. Lots of discussions or disputes but ultimately words are just symbols that mean what the general populace want them to mean.
 
Philip
 
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Subject: [canberrabirds] Widgeon/pigeon?? ?

Maybe ‘widgeon’ was a general kind of label for more than one species.  I think Layton of the Overflow  used it.   g”

 

Layton of the Overflow – and he don’t know where it are – used the reference ‘widgeon’ with much poetic licence. Only widgeon I ever saw was in Illinois, and was told they were Anas americana, as distinct from the similar-looking European widgeon.

 

John Layton

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