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I suspect Hooded Plovers are now 'locally common' at only few sites,
the emphasis being on local meaning a small area. I saw a pair on Woolamai beach
at Phillip Is on 5 January this year. The patch of beach is fenced off with
signs informing people that this is specifically for this species. Which was
nice as I used to frequently see them at Cat Bay etc on Phillip Is, in the 1970s
when the family would go there on many weekends where we had a holiday home
near Summerland Beach. Sorry, that is not relevant to COG
area
Philip
Thanks
Matt (and Philip). Hooded Plovers fit my second scenario. They would once have
been scattered pretty continuously all along the south-eastern (and
south-western) sandy coasts, but beach disturbance has largely fragmented them
into isolated populations where they are relatively protected from disturbance.
For instance earlier this year I had 13 in the binocs at once in the Coorong
National Park, but there is no question that for the most part - and in most
parts - they are a rare bird.
Thanks for an interesting
discussion.
cheers
Ian
On 14/10/2012 11:54, pardalote wrote:
Thanks everyone.
The species I saw was the Hooded
Plover. I did a road trip around Victoria (Melbourne to the eastern
coastal border) last week and found a pair of hooded plovers on Squeaky Beach
at Wilson's Promontory. There was a tourist building at the Nobbies (Phillip
Is) which had a display saying the number of breeding pairs on the Nobbies
were down to 10. I hope that helps clear up the issue, at least a little
bit.
Matt.
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Philip Veerman <> wrote:
Well I think that is an excellent
answer. We had a good example at the COG meeting this week about the Bush
Stone-curlew. The only other thing to add is that we are dealing with a very
big continent. One book trying to explain status of each species across a
big area is a big ask. Of course there is the issue that these words
ultimately are not well defined. Also that there is no word for in-between,
so we get even more intermediaries like moderately, very, etc.
Ultimately even the most abundant
species are still rare in other places.
Philip
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Re: [canberrabirds] What status? "Rare to locally
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I think the answer Matt, is that it depends where you saw it.
We could offer a better answer if we knew what you'd seen, but one example
could be a rare species - say a honeyeater or a finch - which is in low
numbers overall, but which sometimes flocks when resources (flowers or seeds
respectively in their case) are concentrated. For a while, in that one
place, the bird would be 'locally common'. There is also the situtation of
an overall rare species which survives in good numbers in a few isolated
sites. You might drive for days without seeing one, then camp in a
particular forest site and have them all round you - but they might be the
only ones for 500km. There are doubtless other circumstances that others
might suggest too, but overall the concept isn't as daft as it first
sounds. Now, what was it? (and
where!) cheers Ian
On 13/10/2012 17:26, pardalote wrote:
Hi All
I have recently encountered a bird
species which is described in my Slater Field Guide as being "rare to
locally common." I don't understand what this means, and to me,
seems to be a contradiction of itself. My understanding of "rare"
and "common" don't seem to fit. Could someone please explain to me
what this means? Is the bird species I have seen rare, or
common?
Matt.
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