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Subject: | "Do Common Mynas significantly compete with native birds in urban environments?" new paper |
From: | "Philip Veerman" <> |
Date: | Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:22:16 +1000 |
I
can't guess at the relevance of Euro34.95. I would assume they are serious. It
should be credible research but is it broad enough to be relevant in a wider
area. Kim Lowe was for a long time in charge of the Aust Bird Banding Scheme.
Richard Major has researched urban birds for a long time. He won the best
presentation by a student when COG hosted the RAOU congress in 1989, when I won
the other best presentation award for my talk on the GBS and told of my
intention to do a book on the GBS. I don't know of C. E. Taylor.
I
suggest though that comparing the feeding behaviour of the Common Mynas with just two other species
(if that is what it was) has limited relevance. These things always need to be
taken in context. It talks about in this study area, which very likely is true
within also the things they tested. If as Damien pointed out lots of bar graphs that show that common mynas
essentially do things in the same proportions as other species relative to their
abundance then that in no way shows a low impact. The critters aren't
doing anything evil, disproportionate to their abundance but if they are at high
abundance, surely that may still mean that they can be having a high impact.
I
still think trends of abundance from the GBS are reasonably strongly suggestive
of them having an impact, on starlings and quite possibly parrots.
Philip
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Message----- Alas. If we only had a spare Euro34.95 we
might know whether these folk are serious or not.From: martin butterfield [ Sent: Sunday, 18 September 2011 1:19 PM To: Robin Hide Cc: Canberra Birds Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] “Do Common Mynas significantly compete with native birds in urban environments?” new paper Martin A bit more info: Most of these findings were done using surveys, i.e. point counts.
The species they tested for interspecific aggression were Willie Wagtail
and Magpie Lark. Hollows were detected from occupancy, that is they
surveyed an area and followed all hole-nesting species (from Lorikeets to
Cockatoos they say) to ascertain the number of hollows used (as a proxy for the
number present). They then have lots of bar graphs that show that common
mynahs essentially do things in the same proportions as other species relative
to their abundance. Most of this work in the October-February
period.
I suspect that a longitudinal study of shifting behaviour within a site
over time during which a change in abundance of Common Mynahs will yield
different outcomes (which is what I assume Kate's work is doing).
Damien On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Robin Hide <>
wrote:
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