FW: [canberrabirds] Bird- Ecotourism

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Subject: FW: [canberrabirds] Bird- Ecotourism
From: "Geoffrey Dabb" <>
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 11:03:48 +1000

‘Ecotourism’.  A curious word, shifting in meaning before our eyes.  Originally, but perhaps now no longer primarily, it meant ‘tourism so arranged that it involves no degradation of the environment’.  These days any tourism requiring international travel would fall outside that definition.  Then there was the secondary meaning: ‘tourism which is designed to feature places of great ecological interest …’  [forget the environment with this one]. Of interest to whom?   Given that ecology is, relevantly, ‘the balanced interrelationship of organisms and their environment’, it is going to include a lot of stuff that most people will think is  pretty boring.  Now ’ecotourism’ is generally used to mean ‘the business of showing paying visitors visually interesting animals that they don’t see where they live, preferably ones they can photograph’.       


From: martin butterfield [
Sent: Monday, 9 May 2011 8:51 AM
To: Nick Payne
Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Bird- Ecotourism


I should have paid more attention to the road names!  I was also misled by having myself noticed the oval (ie the grassy bit within NSW Cres and Telopea Park) rather well populated by cockatoos at various times.

The patch of dirt beside the tennis courts is about 100m x 70m or 7,000sq m.  Thus 7000/9 = about 750 if they each occupied a square of side 3m.  To fit in 1,000 requires the side of the square to be reduced to 2.6m, which would not be noticeable without very careful assessment.


On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Nick Payne <> wrote:

I guess I shouldn't have used the term 'oval' - the cockatoos weren't on the school oval, but on the smaller grassed area across the road that has the tennis courts in one corner. It's about 1/3 the area of the school oval.


On 09/05/11 07:25, martin butterfield wrote:

Looking at Google Earth the oval is about 150m x 180m giving 27,000 sqm.  So, if the cockies were spread evenly and each was at the centre of a square of side 3m  there would have been 3,000 of them.  Taking an alternate approach, if there were 1,000 cockies the side of the 'square' they occupied would be about 5.2m.


On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Nick Payne <m("","nick.payne");" target="_blank">> wrote:

I went past the Telopea Park School in Barton late yesterday afternoon, and the oval between NSW Crescent and Fitzroy St was absolutely covered with SC Cockatoos. I have never seen such a number in one location. There were so many I didn't try a count, but there was a cockatoo every few square metres over the entire oval, and and the oval must be several thousand square metres, so there was a minimum of several hundred cockatoos.

Nick Payne

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