Little Grassbird vs Clamorous Reed-Warbler

To: "'Canberra Birds'" <>
Subject: Little Grassbird vs Clamorous Reed-Warbler
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 22:59:16 +1100
I have deleted the original photo (as I do with almost all of them, to save space) so can't go back to check. I responded more to the relatively unstreaked appearance than a hint of a red cap. But I mainly went by the mention of a loud call, which is hardly suggestive of LGB, but then again, I wasn't there and maybe the intent of the comment was he was thinking in terms of a louder call than he usually thinks they make. I'm happy with whatever Lindell believes it to be........
My reaction to bird names old and new is exactly the same as Mark's, in terms of preferences or common usage one way or the other. Preferred easy speak tends to be what we grow up with using, formal use is a bit tighter. I suspect that applies to most of us. Although the particular examples used will vary a bit.
-----Original Message-----From: Mark Clayton [ Sent: Monday, 20 December 2010 7:02 PM
To: 'John Layton'; 'Canberra Birds'  Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Little Grassbird vs Clamorous Reed-Warbler



You are quite right, the bird is now the Australian Reed-Warbler but old habits die hard, especially after a lifetime of calling a bird by a certain name – I was calling the bird the Australian Reed-Warbler a long time before it came out in Christidis and Boles, mainly due to Dick Schodde’s influence. I still call White-throated Needletails “Spine-tailed Swifts” but only when talking with close birding friends as they know what I mean. I will always use the correct name when talking to beginners, writing articles etc. I’m sure Philip would agree with me on the reed-warbler.




From: John Layton [
Sent: Monday, 20 December 2010 6:17 PM
To: Canberra Birds
Subject: [canberrabirds] Little Grassbird vs Clamorous Reed-Warbler


Lidell’s photo generated much debate/argument at our place, finally everyone settled for a juvenile Little Grassbird, but were surprised to read. “Its sound is a very weak whistle.” In our experience it’s quite the opposite and more often heard than seen. However this reminds me that I’ve sometimes thought the same species will give different calls depending on the geographical area. Anyone?

And I thought Clamorous Reed-Warbler was now Australian Reed-Warbler, or have the taxonomists changed it?

John Layton


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