Crested Pigeons and futile endeavours

To: "'Lindsay Hansch'" <>
Subject: Crested Pigeons and futile endeavours
From: "Geoffrey Dabb" <>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 17:02:28 +1100

Hey, no chastening intended, Lindsay.  David McD has pointed out my error to me in that ‘Environa’ was in fact an aborted development proposal of the 1920s (!) that for some reason still appears on some maps.


A pleasant Xmas to Rhonda and yourself.  Watch out for that long-legged mystery bird on the 25th.   Geoffrey  


From: Lindsay Hansch [
Sent: Monday, 13 December 2010 4:33 PM
To: 'Geoffrey Dabb';
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Crested Pigeons and futile endeavours


Fair point, Geoffrey.  I am chastened.






From: Geoffrey Dabb [
Sent: Sunday, 12 December 2010 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Crested Pigeons and futile endeavours


Several years ago, the co-ordinator of this list, David McDonald of Wamboin, NSW, suggested that contributors give details of locations mentioned ‘for the information of subscribers not living in the Canberra area’ – or something of the sort.  That suggestion, useful though it was, has not, I think it fair to say, been generally taken up.  After all, non-residents who are really interested in such things can probably acquire through eBay a slightly out-of-date Canberra street directory for practically nothing.


However, Lindsay’s below message prompts me to offer a little gratuitous advice to non-residents about one confusing matter concerning Canberra’s geography.


Subscribers might recall the exchange of 20 November between David and Martin Butterfield on the etymology of ‘Jerrabomberra’.  But what is ‘Jerrabomberra’?


Geographically, Jerrabomberra is a creek that flows into Lake Burley Griffin in the vicinity of the Canberra morgue and quite close to a prestige residential development on former swampland that is pretentiously if inappropriately labelled ‘Kingston Foreshores’, at what residents like to think of as the Venice End of the lake.  Jerrabomberra Creek rises, if one can use that term for the most intermittent of watercourses, far to the south in the vicinity of the hamlet of Williamsdale.  Thence, it flows north in New South Wales, entering the ACT under an obsolete railway bridge behind the light industrial suburb of Hume.  In the ACT, its presence is acknowledged in the names of ‘Jerrabomberra Avenue’, ‘Jerrabomberra Sportsground’, and, of course ‘Jerrabomberra Wetlands Nature Reserve’.   ‘Jerrabomberra’ is an ACT planning locality, just like ‘Tuggeranong’.


Naturally enough the name also applies to the creek’s flattish grassy valley, so one also hears of the ‘Jerrabomberra Grasslands’, known to some people as a haunt of the Grassland Earless Dragon.  However, my main point is that the name has been adopted by NSW naming authorities for a suburb of Queanbeyan, which has its own postcode: ‘2619’.  Thus there is a Jerrabomberra this-and-that associated with the new development.  This is all to explain that ‘Lake Jerrabomberra’ mentioned by Lindsay, an ornamental impoundment,  has nothing to do with Jerrabomberra Wetlands.


I might add that lying to the west and separated from Jerrabomberra 2619 by Jerrabomberra Creek is the excitingly named new suburb of ‘Environa’.  This abuts the ACT, being separated only by the obsolete railway line and the Fraser Park Raceway.       


From: Lindsay Hansch [
Sent: Sunday, 12 December 2010 8:36 AM
Subject: [canberrabirds] Crested Pigeons


I am aware that Sandgrouse in Africa carry water to nestlings by trapping it in their breast feathers.  Does anyone know if pigeons here do the same.  Early this week while doing my GBS count I saw a pair of Crested Pigeons circling low over the water in Lake Jerrabomberra.  While I watched one bird landed in the water, remained for a few seconds and then took off, heading directly away from the lake followed by its mate.  Is there any other explanation for this behavior?


Lindsay Hansch

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