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Chat line etiquette - again

To: "'Beth Mantle'" <>, "'canberra birds'" <>
Subject: Chat line etiquette - again
From: "Mark Clayton" <>
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:40:55 +1100

Beth,

 

I take your point and would love to see the chatline used the way it should be but it is useless if people are too scared to use it for fear of being ridiculed. This is exactly the response I received from numerous people to my first email. As I said in this morning’s email I will send these replies to the committee for discussion. A lot of people have also spoken to me and other members I associate with complaining about feeling intimidated and not wishing to have anything to do with the chatline. It is obvious that the committee does not realise the depth of the problem, hence the stand I have taken. I know a hell of a lot of the membership agree with me, including some committee members. I’m afraid the issue will not just go away, something has to be done. The whole thing has been going on for years not just recently. It is not just the COG chatline that suffers this problem, I note from time to time that Birding-aus also appears to have its fair share of troublemakers!

 

Mark

 


From: Beth Mantle [
Sent: Sunday, 18 October 2009 9:07 AM
To: canberra birds
Subject: [canberrabirds] Chat line etiquette - again

 

Dear All,

 

Please may I remind everyone (as Matt Frawley already has) that the chat line etiquette issue has already been raised (by me) at the last COG Committee meeting, and was subsequently addressed in our President's most excellent post to the chat line (copied below).

 

The emails that include attacks on others, for whatever reason and in whatever format, have no place on our chat line.  They debase the value of our discussions, are unconstructive in main, and are far to easy to misinterpret.  They do not solve problems, but rather contribute to it.

 

It genuinely saddens me to see these posts on our much-loved, read and used chat line.

 

Please can we move on, and keep personal debates off the public line.

 

Best wishes to all,

Beth

 

 

As President I am fortunate enough to be in a position to receive compliments on the things that COG does well.  One of these is the email discussion forum, or chat-line .  The chat-line has been an innovation that is of  great value to both Group and non-Group members and is an excellent medium by which we can all benefit from each other's birding experiences.

 

Because the chat-line is an open forum for discussion on birds and their habitats it is important to ensure that the Forum is open to anyone and that there are no suggestions that  postings are not welcome.  For the more experienced bird observer it is important to remember the thrill of seeing a species or some aspect of behaviour for the first time and to be able to share that experience.  Repeated postings of observations on any particular species should be encouraged for it is in this way we are all able to learn from other's experiences.

 

As I encourage all relevant postings to the chat-line I also encourage those observations to be documented with the COG database.  A form can be found on the COG website (see under 'Maps, Forms and Lists' ) or, once an observer has been registered, observations can be entered on-line.  Registration is possible by logging ontohttp://cogatlas.org.au/

 

I would like to take this opportunity to remind contributors that it is best practice to make sure that posted emails have an appropriate subject line.  This is best done by writing a new email rather than just clicking on the 'reply' button.

 

Good Birding

 

Chris Davey (President) 


24 Bardsley Place
Holt
ACT 2615

 

Tel: 02-62546324

 

Beth Mantle
H: 02 6287 7860
M: 0407 174 427

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On Oct 18, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Mark Clayton wrote:



 I shall be asking the COG committee to formally discuss this important issue at their next available meeting and forwarding the responses I received as evidence that there is a major problem.

 

 

Mark

 

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