Nesting Falcons

To: "cog-l" <>
Subject: Nesting Falcons
From: "Philip A. Veerman" <>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:07:21 +1100
Well I'd certainly be willing to take the effort of a trip out to Tharwa sandwash for a Black Falcon breeding record (after work and take someone with me if that is feasible). If that is what it is. It is possible but Benj's later description is hardly overly convincing though. I'm sure I have encountered Brown Falcons in that area before indulging in behaviour indicative of breeding. At the distance that the situation seems to describe, I don't know that anyone would pick a difference in size. Pizzey's book & Simpson's says the Black is bigger, so saying "it did look smaller than a brown falcon" is not helping. The Brown Falcon is noisy at their nest and with fledglings, with a loud cackle call (not all that much different from the Dollarbird's call). I haven't ever heard a Black Falcon call (but of many observations over the years I have only once seen one at a nest). The Black Falcon is neater and more compact when perched and quite different in flight from a Brown Falcon.
I can report though that the pair of Hobbies (or another pair - but I think they show good site fidelity) have this week returned to the same area with one of two trees to choose from, in which they had a successful breeding last summer. This is in the median strip on Tuggeranong Parkway adjacent to the Kambah Village shops and the Caltex service station. I haven't seen them on a nest yet (haven't had the opportunity to look) but they were flying round the trees chattering to each other at dusk yesterday (and one munching on something) and one seen again today perched on an adjacent light pole.
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From: Frank Antram <>
To: m("","canberrabirds");"> <>
Date: Monday, 10 January 2005 17:20
Subject: Re: RE: [canberrabirds] Tharwa, Namadgi

Well, if you meant the falcon was feeding its own fledglings, then your grammar is excellent...and I'm excited!  Is anybody planning to drive out to Tharwa who wouldn't mind giving me a lift?  My car is not too well at the moment.  I'm contactable by phone on 6251 9201 (home) or 6274 1428 (work).

> Hey??
> No, the black falcon was feeding its own 2 fledglings some form of prey.
> Assuming it was a black falcon, and they were its own fledglings. I guess another possibility could be the falcon was a female begging, but since two were begging, and the calls sounded more baby like, I assume they were babies. Yes my grammar is bad, blame it on the system.
> The dollarbird swooped the black falcon, and I assume the dollarbird also has a nest but didn't see it. The swooping bird made a frighteningly loud noise and I pity any human or falcon who gets swooped.
> Yep about 500m N of the Carpark.
> Benj
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Antram
> Sent: Monday, 10 January 2005 4:41 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Tharwa, Namadgi
> Benj, I assume you mean the Dollarbird was feeding fledglings, not the Black Falcon!  You got me very excited for a moment!!
> > Tharwa Sandwash. Friday 7th. Saw nesting bee-eaters, rufous songlarks, 3 black fronted dotterels (1 juvenile), 2 whitefaces, male rufous whistler on a nest, redbrows with fledged juveniles. Interestingly 2 diamond firetails were there (didn't see them last time), and finally saw a male hooded robin. 1 Dollarbird swooped what I am pretty sure from the jizz, was a black falcon, but hard to see at distance. The black falcon later flew to the East side of the river and fed 2 begging fledglings. 5 Goldfinches including 3 juveniles.
> >
Namadgi visitors centre, Saturday 8th. Near the Centre saw 4 restless flycatchers, 2 fledglings being fed. 1 adult diamond firetail and 2 juveniles. A white winged triller on a nest. Very large MFF- Many trillers, with 2 fledglings being fed by parents (very striped), rufous whistler fledglings being fed by parents. Western and white throated gerygones, fuscous honeyeaters, 4 sittellas, satin flycatcher male, horshfield's bronze cuckoo. 1 Whiteface. Rufous songlark.
> >
Orroral campground. At least 4 and probably 6 sacred kingfishers with at least 2 being juveniles. Quite a few white eared honeyeaters, yf and 1 wn honeyeaters. 3 Fuscous honeyeaters having a bath as well as other birds. Common bronzewing.
Benj Whitworth
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