birding-aus

Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 133, Issue 4

To: <>
Subject: Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 133, Issue 4
From: <>
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2025 12:11:26 +1000
A couple of weeks ago I did a cruise with Daintree Boatman. He located the 
frogmouth and enabled me to see the Spotted Whistling Duck.
Would recommend.  https://www.daintreerivertours.com.au/
Wendy McWilliams 

-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of 

Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2025 2:00 AM
To: 
Subject: Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 133, Issue 4

Send Birding-Aus mailing list submissions to
        

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
        http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
        

You can reach the person managing the list at
        

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: 
Contents of Birding-Aus digest..."


Today's Topics:

   1. Two Questions (ERIC JEFFREY)
   2. Re: Two Questions (Russell Woodford)
   3. Re: Two Questions (Russell Woodford)
   4. Re: Two Questions (ERIC JEFFREY)
   5. Re: Two Questions (ERIC JEFFREY)
   6. Re: Two Questions (David Clark)
   7. Re: Two Questions (Tony Russell)
   8. Re: Two Questions 
   9. Re: Two Questions 
  10. Re: Two Questions (ERIC JEFFREY)


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2025 14:37:11 -0400
From: ERIC JEFFREY <>
To: 
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Two Questions
Message-ID: <>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

After 31 years, we are planning another trip to Australia for fall of 2026. Two 
quick questions:

1. What is the best birding app for Australia. It seems the main ones are 
Pizzey and Morecombe. 

2. Is the Daintree River cruise still recommended? If there is more than one, 
which is best?

Thanks in advance. 

Eric Jeffrey
Virginia, USA. 

Sent from my iPhone

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:39:46 +1000
From: Russell Woodford <>
To: ERIC JEFFREY <>, "birding-aus (E-mail)"
        <>
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Two Questions
Message-ID:
        <CAEUd7=>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi Eric

There are three good birding apps (and a few free ones that range from very 
basic to very limited) Pizzey and Knight Birds of Australia - good info and 
maps, has calls for nearly all species, though the sound files have been quite 
heavily processed. App updated 4 weeks ago, so everything current.
Morcombe & Stewart Guide to Birds of Australia - Pretty good coverage, much 
more natural sound files (recorded by Dave Stewart), but a little out of date 
re taxonomy, as there hasn't been an update for four years. Also, a few of the 
maps are famously wrong!
David Stewart Bird Calls of Australia - the most comprehensive collection of 
bird calls for Australia. Birds are grouped by subspecies and region so it 
gives a more accurate set of calls for where you are. I tend to use this and 
Pizzey because I only ever used the Morcombe guide for the calls, but since the 
publication of the Stewart app I really don't need the Morcombe app for 
anything.

If you're an eBirder, then definitely use the Explore feature in the app, which 
shows you the hotspots in the LGA you're in (and you can change the settings to 
show any area in the world). Great for seeing what's been seen in the last 3, 
7, 30 days etc.
The Merlin app, which is so good at identifying birds by call in Europe and 
North America, is in its infancy here in Australia. All the birds occurring 
commonly in Europe and NA are included, but to date there are only about 25 
local species included. More are added every few months.

There's also a handful of printed guides, some of them a bit big to be called 
field guides:
Australian Bird Guide (Peter Menkhorst, Danny Rogers et al) published by CSIRO 
- by far the best book covering all Australian birds, but it won't fit in your 
back pocket!
The other main ones are:
Field Guide to the Birds of Australia (Simpson & Day) Field Guide to the Birds 
of Australia (Pizzey and Knight) paper version of the app, without the calls 
but lots of extra description The Slater Field Guide to Australian Birds - a 
nice slim volume full of helpful illustrations There is a growing number of 
photographic "field" guides but none of these are great for ID. It's not 
possible to show all the plumages of some species in just 3 or 4 selected 
photos. Some of these volumes do have very good images, though.
I'm surprised the publishing houses are still rolling out new editions of these 
bird guide books, given how much more useful the apps are.



Morcomb guide





On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 at 06:40, ERIC JEFFREY via Birding-Aus < 
> wrote:

> After 31 years, we are planning another trip to Australia for fall of 
> 2026. Two quick questions:
>
> 1. What is the best birding app for Australia. It seems the main ones 
> are Pizzey and Morecombe.
>
> 2. Is the Daintree River cruise still recommended? If there is more 
> than one, which is best?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Eric Jeffrey
> Virginia, USA.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> <HR>
> <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
> <BR> 
> <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> <BR> 
> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
> </HR>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://birding-aus.org/mailman/private/birding-aus_birding-aus.org/attachments/20250630/b45837b8/attachment.htm>

------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:44:41 +1000
From: Russell Woodford <>
To: ERIC JEFFREY <>, "birding-aus (E-mail)"
        <>
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Two Questions
Message-ID:
        <CAEUd7=7-mVzw=W7rFKJO90GQo7arsVa_7oEydCiRTi=zK0=>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi Eric

I've only been to the daintree once, and I did a fantastic morning cruise with 
Murray Hunt, of Daintree Boatman Wildlife Cruises. If I went back I would 
certainly go with Murray again.
https://www.daintreerivertours.com.au

There are quite a few other operators but I don't know how good they are at 
finding birds, and some of them are just focussed on crocodile spotting.

Russell Woodford
Birding-Aus Moderator

On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 at 06:40, ERIC JEFFREY via Birding-Aus < 
> wrote:

> After 31 years, we are planning another trip to Australia for fall of 
> 2026. Two quick questions:
>
> 1. What is the best birding app for Australia. It seems the main ones 
> are Pizzey and Morecombe.
>
> 2. Is the Daintree River cruise still recommended? If there is more 
> than one, which is best?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Eric Jeffrey
> Virginia, USA.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> <HR>
> <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
> <BR> 
> <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> <BR> 
> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
> </HR>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://birding-aus.org/mailman/private/birding-aus_birding-aus.org/attachments/20250630/11165041/attachment.htm>

------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2025 19:04:10 -0400
From: ERIC JEFFREY <>
To: Russell Woodford <>
Cc: birding-aus <>
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Two Questions
Message-ID: <>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://birding-aus.org/mailman/private/birding-aus_birding-aus.org/attachments/20250629/451bcbbd/attachment.htm>

------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2025 19:00:44 -0400
From: ERIC JEFFREY <>
To: Russell Woodford <>
Cc: birding-aus <>
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Two Questions
Message-ID: <>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://birding-aus.org/mailman/private/birding-aus_birding-aus.org/attachments/20250629/47a45f7f/attachment.htm>

------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 11:10:58 +1000
From: David Clark <>
To: ERIC JEFFREY <>
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Two Questions
Message-ID:
        <>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Eric

I think that Russell has answered your questions very well.

It's nearly 16 years since I did the Daintree cruise and I'm not sure of the 
name of the operator.  However, he knew the river and its fauna very well and 
was able to show us a pair of nesting Papuan Frogmouths, among lots of other 
interesting creatures ... including just a fleeting glimpse of a Saltwater 
Crocodile.  We stayed at Kingfisher Lodge in Julatten before heading to the 
Daintree and the then owners recommended that particular cruise.

Cheers

David

On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 6:40 AM ERIC JEFFREY via Birding-Aus < 
> wrote:

> After 31 years, we are planning another trip to Australia for fall of 
> 2026. Two quick questions:
>
> 1. What is the best birding app for Australia. It seems the main ones 
> are Pizzey and Morecombe.
>
> 2. Is the Daintree River cruise still recommended? If there is more 
> than one, which is best?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Eric Jeffrey
> Virginia, USA.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> <HR>
> <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
> <BR> 
> <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> <BR> 
> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
> </HR>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://birding-aus.org/mailman/private/birding-aus_birding-aus.org/attachments/20250630/e730dc01/attachment.htm>

------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 10:45:37 +0930
From: Tony Russell <>
To: ERIC JEFFREY <>
Cc: Russell Woodford <>, birding-aus
        <>
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Two Questions
Message-ID:
        <>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

good stuff russ. tony.

On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 at 09:12, ERIC JEFFREY via Birding-Aus < 
> wrote:

> Thanks again Russell. I have the revised edition of the CSIRO guide 
> and just ordered the Compact version. We have older editions of the others.
>
> All the best,
>
> Eric
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 29, 2025, at 6:39 PM, Russell Woodford <>
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi Eric
>
> There are three good birding apps (and a few free ones that range from 
> very basic to very limited) Pizzey and Knight Birds of Australia - 
> good info and maps, has calls for nearly all species, though the sound 
> files have been quite heavily processed. App updated 4 weeks ago, so 
> everything current.
> Morcombe & Stewart Guide to Birds of Australia - Pretty good coverage, 
> much more natural sound files (recorded by Dave Stewart), but a little 
> out of date re taxonomy, as there hasn't been an update for four 
> years. Also, a few of the maps are famously wrong!
> David Stewart Bird Calls of Australia - the most comprehensive 
> collection of bird calls for Australia. Birds are grouped by 
> subspecies and region so it gives a more accurate set of calls for 
> where you are. I tend to use this and Pizzey because I only ever used 
> the Morcombe guide for the calls, but since the publication of the 
> Stewart app I really don't need the Morcombe app for anything.
>
> If you're an eBirder, then definitely use the Explore feature in the 
> app, which shows you the hotspots in the LGA you're in (and you can 
> change the settings to show any area in the world). Great for seeing 
> what's been seen in the last 3, 7, 30 days etc.
> The Merlin app, which is so good at identifying birds by call in 
> Europe and North America, is in its infancy here in Australia. All the 
> birds occurring commonly in Europe and NA are included, but to date 
> there are only about 25 local species included. More are added every few 
> months.
>
> There's also a handful of printed guides, some of them a bit big to be 
> called field guides:
> Australian Bird Guide (Peter Menkhorst, Danny Rogers et al) published 
> by CSIRO - by far the best book covering all Australian birds, but it 
> won't fit in your back pocket!
> The other main ones are:
> Field Guide to the Birds of Australia (Simpson & Day) Field Guide to 
> the Birds of Australia (Pizzey and Knight) paper version of the app, 
> without the calls but lots of extra description The Slater Field Guide 
> to Australian Birds - a nice slim volume full of helpful illustrations 
> There is a growing number of photographic "field" guides but none of 
> these are great for ID. It's not possible to show all the plumages of 
> some species in just 3 or 4 selected photos. Some of these volumes do 
> have very good images, though.
> I'm surprised the publishing houses are still rolling out new editions 
> of these bird guide books, given how much more useful the apps are.
>
>
>
> Morcomb guide
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 at 06:40, ERIC JEFFREY via Birding-Aus < 
> > wrote:
>
>> After 31 years, we are planning another trip to Australia for fall of 
>> 2026. Two quick questions:
>>
>> 1. What is the best birding app for Australia. It seems the main ones 
>> are Pizzey and Morecombe.
>>
>> 2. Is the Daintree River cruise still recommended? If there is more 
>> than one, which is best?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Eric Jeffrey
>> Virginia, USA.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> <HR>
>> <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
>> <BR> 
>> <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
>> <BR> 
>> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
>> </HR>
>>
> <HR>
> <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
> <BR> 
> <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> <BR> 
> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
> </HR>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://birding-aus.org/mailman/private/birding-aus_birding-aus.org/attachments/20250630/2128a844/attachment.htm>

------------------------------

Message: 8
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:23:47 +1000
From: <>
To: "'David Clark'" <>
Cc: <>,   "'Birding-Aus'" <>
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Two Questions
Message-ID: <>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Back then it could have been the guy whose nickname was “Sauce”.

 

He had a special early morning Bird Cruise and yes he nearly always found the 
Papuan Frogmouths.

 

I think however that Ian Worcester has retired.

 

Regards

 

Barry

 

 

From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of David Clark
Sent: Monday, 30 June 2025 11:11 AM
To: ERIC JEFFREY <>
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Two Questions

 

Eric

 

I think that Russell has answered your questions very well.

 

It's nearly 16 years since I did the Daintree cruise and I'm not sure of the 
name of the operator.  However, he knew the river and its fauna very well and 
was able to show us a pair of nesting Papuan Frogmouths, among lots of other 
interesting creatures ... including just a fleeting glimpse of a Saltwater 
Crocodile.  We stayed at Kingfisher Lodge in Julatten before heading to the 
Daintree and the then owners recommended that particular cruise.  

 

Cheers

 

David

 

On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 6:40 AM ERIC JEFFREY via Birding-Aus 
< <> > wrote:

After 31 years, we are planning another trip to Australia for fall of 2026. Two 
quick questions:

1. What is the best birding app for Australia. It seems the main ones are 
Pizzey and Morecombe. 

2. Is the Daintree River cruise still recommended? If there is more than one, 
which is best?

Thanks in advance. 

Eric Jeffrey
Virginia, USA. 

Sent from my iPhone

<HR>
<BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
<BR>  <>
<BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
<BR> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
</HR>

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://birding-aus.org/mailman/private/birding-aus_birding-aus.org/attachments/20250630/56bb19da/attachment.htm>

------------------------------

Message: 9
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 14:28:52 +1000
From: <>
To: <>
Cc: "'Birding Aus'" <>
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Two Questions
Message-ID: <>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi Eric,

 

‘Sauce’ has retired but Alex has taken over his business, Daintree River 
Wildwatch.  Sauce was still doing some tours for Alex a couple of years back.  
Both Alex (or Sauce) and Murray are very good.  I did one trip with Murray and 
the other with  Sauce a couple of years back.  

 

Greg Clancy

 

From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of Barry 
Lancaster via Birding-Aus
Sent: Monday, 30 June 2025 12:24 PM
To: 'David Clark' <>
Cc: 'Birding-Aus' <>
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Two Questions

 

Back then it could have been the guy whose nickname was “Sauce”.

 

He had a special early morning Bird Cruise and yes he nearly always found the 
Papuan Frogmouths.

 

I think however that Ian Worcester has retired.

 

Regards

 

Barry

 

 

From: Birding-Aus < 
<> > On Behalf Of David Clark
Sent: Monday, 30 June 2025 11:11 AM
To: ERIC JEFFREY < <> >
Cc:  <>
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Two Questions

 

Eric

 

I think that Russell has answered your questions very well.

 

It's nearly 16 years since I did the Daintree cruise and I'm not sure of the 
name of the operator.  However, he knew the river and its fauna very well and 
was able to show us a pair of nesting Papuan Frogmouths, among lots of other 
interesting creatures ... including just a fleeting glimpse of a Saltwater 
Crocodile.  We stayed at Kingfisher Lodge in Julatten before heading to the 
Daintree and the then owners recommended that particular cruise.  

 

Cheers

 

David

 

On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 6:40 AM ERIC JEFFREY via Birding-Aus 
< <> > wrote:

After 31 years, we are planning another trip to Australia for fall of 2026. Two 
quick questions:

1. What is the best birding app for Australia. It seems the main ones are 
Pizzey and Morecombe. 

2. Is the Daintree River cruise still recommended? If there is more than one, 
which is best?

Thanks in advance. 

Eric Jeffrey
Virginia, USA. 

Sent from my iPhone

<HR>
<BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
<BR>  <>
<BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
<BR> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
</HR>

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://birding-aus.org/mailman/private/birding-aus_birding-aus.org/attachments/20250630/ddb08a03/attachment.htm>

------------------------------

Message: 10
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 07:51:42 -0400
From: ERIC JEFFREY <>
To: 
Cc: Birding Aus <>
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Two Questions
Message-ID: <>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://birding-aus.org/mailman/private/birding-aus_birding-aus.org/attachments/20250630/a8960e02/attachment.htm>

------------------------------

Subject: Digest Footer

_______________________________________________
Birding-Aus mailing list

To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org


------------------------------

End of Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 133, Issue 4
*******************************************


<HR>
<BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
<BR> 
<BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
<BR> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
</HR>
<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>
  • Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 133, Issue 4, wendy <=
Admin

The University of NSW School of Computer and Engineering takes no responsibility for the contents of this archive. It is purely a compilation of material sent by many people to the birding-aus mailing list. It has not been checked for accuracy nor its content verified in any way. If you wish to get material removed from the archive or have other queries about the archive e-mail Andrew Taylor at this address: andrewt@cse.unsw.EDU.AU