Thanks Ronald. It is interesting how little time some birds spend in the
breeding zone before heading off to their wintering territory.
Regards, Laurie
> On 15 Oct 2023, at 11:51 pm, Ronald Orenstein <>
> wrote:
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> According to the Cornell Birds of the World site, "There is a lengthy period
> of fall migration since movements vary with breeding success and juveniles
> depart considerably later than adults. Non-breeders leave 2–4 weeks before
> breeders, and young some weeks after adults. Generally departs late August or
> early September. During this time, species is widely dispersed as first
> arrivals on overwintering grounds occur well before last departures from
> tundra. Spring egress from the overwintering range and stopovers extends over
> several weeks, apparently related to responses of particular populations to
> timing of snowmelt on various breeding grounds."
>
> Ronald Orenstein
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> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 02:56:05 a.m. EDT, Neville Pamment via
> Birding-Aus <> wrote:
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> Laurie, Mike
>
> Some wader records from my visit 17-23 July 2014: Pacific Golden Plover
> (three or four birds, on lawns, at the Meteorology Station and Ba'hai
> Temple, Apia); Wandering Tattler (about five in mangroves and on
> mudflats, Apia harbour); Whimbrel (one near mangroves, Apia harbour);
> Ruddy Turnstone (a group of 10 on a lawn by the sea wall, and small
> groups on the High Court and Meteorology Station lawns).
>
> regards
>
> Neville
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> On 15/10/2023 12:54, Laurie Knight wrote:
>> G’day Mike
>>
>> Sorry, I worded that the wrong way. Would birds sit out the breeding season
>> in Samoa? It seems that September is early for birds that have bred in the
>> northern hemisphere to arrive in Samoa.
>>
>> Regards, Laurie
>>
>>> On 15 Oct 2023, at 9:26 am, Michael Tarburton <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes Laurie
>>>
>>> Golden Plovers do “winter” in Samoa. During the four years we lived there
>>> we had many sightings on our campus lawns right through Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar.
>>> There were even more at Mulinuu not far from our campus, near Apia. For
>>> example on 15th Feb 1994, we recorded 1 Eastern Curlew, 12 Whimbrel, 3
>>> Ruddy Turnstone, 1 Bar-tailed Godwit, 5 Western Tattler, & 10 Golden
>>> Plover, all at Mulinuu.
>>>
>>> Happy birding
>>>
>>> Mike Tarburton
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 14 Oct 2023, at 3:59 pm, Laurie Knight <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Following on from my previous post, we saw a lot of golden plovers on
>>>> Samoa, where they tended to hang out on mown lawns.
>>>>
>>>> They all seemed to be in non-breeding plumage, which seemed to be a bit
>>>> strange at the end of September. Is Samoa on the East Asian flyway? (It
>>>> is to the east of 95% of the dateline).
>>>>
>>>> My question is whether Samoa a place where golden plovers hangout when
>>>> they are siting out the northern hemisphere breeding season?
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Laurie
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