Ah , so "Cryptic" is not so much descriptive of the bird itself, as say is
"White-plumed Honeyeater" ??
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> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 11:22:40 +1000
> From: Phil Gregory <>
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> Are the females of this new one any more cryptic than males? Are the females
> of this new one any more cryptic than females of the closely related species?
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> In short, no
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>> On 27 Jan 2020, at 9:05 AM, Philip Veerman <> wrote:
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>> Are the females of this new one any more cryptic than males? Are the females
>> of this new one any more cryptic than females of the closely related species?
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> I think we should all just get a life and accept cryptic. . It's not worth
> all this chit chat. What's in a name ( to quote someone obscure.)
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>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 07:40, Phil Gregory <> wrote:
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>> " *Cryptic" is a sexy name, (with Herpetological overtones), but is the
>> bird actually or unusually that much more camouflaged or difficult to see
>> than other Honeyeaters? Is it generally so different to look at or listen
>> to that a new name is really necessary ? (With apologies to armchair
>> twitchers, of which I am now one, having seen the bird but not appreciated
>> its uniqueness)*
>> Well yes, it?s part of what was the Meliphaga group (now Microptilotis for
>> many) and is extremely similar to Graceful Honeyeater, a critic species if
>> ever there was one and hence the choice of name. Within that group in New
>> Guinea there are likely to be several more as yet unrecognised cryptic
>> species, so I think Cryptic is appropriate and Lloyd was happy with it
>> after lengthy discussions with him and IOC folks about what on earth to
>> call it.
>> Regards from Kagoshima.
>> Phil Gregory
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>> On 27 Jan 2020, at 1:12 AM, Michael Hunter <>
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>> " Cryptic" is a sexy name, (with Herpetological overtones), but is the
>> bird actually or unusually that much more camouflaged or difficult to see
>> than other Honeyeaters? Is it generally so different to look at or listen
>> to that a new name is really necessary ? (With apologies to armchair
>> twitchers, of which I am now one, having seen the bird but not appreciated
>> its uniqueness)
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>> Michael
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> In reply to Greg Roberts' email of 21 Jan "Death by barbed wire":
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> "This subject was addressed in Andrew Ley's paper "Bird casualties in fences
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> see https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/27/science/albatross-ocean-radar.html
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