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Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 64, Issue 5

To: "Dave Torr" <>, "Michael Hunter" <>
Subject: Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 64, Issue 5
From: "Tom Wilson" <>
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 21:01:36 +1100
My understanding form the cyber-folks at work is that replying will tell the spammers it’s an active account used by a real person and they might be trying to glean further useful information from the metadata on your reply.  They’ll already know that it’s a valid address as they scrub their databases to eradicate the bounce messages if an account is not valid.  (I found out when I asked if I could send a particularly persistent spammer a message about combining romance and travel and was advised not to.)
Cheers
Tom Wilson
 
From: Dave Torr
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 64, Issue 5
 
Even better is to report it as Spam. Clicking Unsubscribe confirms that your address is a valid address - whilst I am sure that Ponant are a legitimate business many less legitimate people sending out huge numbers of emails to addresses which may or may not exist - if you unsubscribe you immediately confirm that you exist and are thus a better target in future (and if they are not a legitimate business they are unlikely to take you off their mail list). Furthermore if you did not sign up for Ponant but they got your address by buying a mailing list then as far as I am concerned it is spam and to be discouraged - and if enough people report as spam then they may find their ISP reluctant to deal with them in future.
 
On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 08:23, Michael Hunter <> wrote:
Unsolicited  advertising should be almost immediately terminated by clicking on  the usually very fine print saying "unsubscribe" or similar at the bottom of the email.

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>   1. Re: Ponant Cruises (Stephen Ambrose)
>   2. 2019 Sydney pelagic dates (Greg McLachlan)
>   3. Re: Ponant Cruises (Anne Brophy)
>   4. last seats on 2019 tours (Advertisement) (Peter Waanders)
>   5. White-throated needletail (Kirri Hardy)
>   6. Australian Swiftlets in NSW (Sandy Gilmore)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:53:01 +1100
> From: "Stephen Ambrose" <>
> To: "'calyptorhynchus'" <>, "'Carl Clifford'"
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> Cc: "'Chris Lloyd'" <>,
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Ponant Cruises
> Message-ID: <000501d4bc45$821eaa00$865bfe00$@ambecol.com.au>
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> Hi John,
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> I?ve not received anything from Ponant either.  But a friend of mine (not a birdwatcher) went on their Antarctic cruise about 3 years ago and there was an ornithologist on board who gave lectures and identified the birds they encountered, so they probably have a bird list for that cruise at least.  I don?t know about the other Ponant cruises, though.
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> Stephen Ambrose
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> Ryde, NSW
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> From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of calyptorhynchus
> Sent: 4 February 2019 3:25 PM
> To: Carl Clifford <>
> Cc: Chris Lloyd <>;
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Ponant Cruises
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> If I got one of these emails i?d Reply and ask to see the bird list for each of their cruises.
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> John Leonard
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> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 14:33 Carl Clifford < <mailto:> > wrote:
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> Yes, I have received a few. I guess they bought your address as part of a job lot from a dealer. It is a not uncommon practice in the world of marketing. I find the Ponant emails rather unsettling, as I would never have cash to go on one.
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> On Monday, February 4, 2019, Chris Lloyd < <mailto:> > wrote:
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> I have recently started receiving unsolicited email from this cruise company to an address I only use for private material. I am quite used to receiving such email on a commercial email address including numerous generous offers from various Nigerian agencies. I have asked the company where it got the email address but have not been overwhelmed with the response. Have others received such unsolicited material?
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> John Leonard
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> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 07:41:59 +1100
> From: Greg McLachlan <>
> To: Birding Aus <>
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] 2019 Sydney pelagic dates
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> Hi All,
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> The dates for pelagic trips running out of Sydney during 2019 are below.
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> Saturday 9 February 2019
> Saturday 9 March 2019
> Saturday 13 April 2019
> Saturday 11 May 2019
> Saturday 8 June 2019
> Saturday 13 July 2019
> Saturday 10 August 2019
> Saturday 14 September 2019
> Saturday 12 October 2019
> Saturday 9 November 2019
> Saturday 14 December 2019
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> Trip information, reports and booking details can be found on the web site.
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> http://sydneypelagics.info
> Cheers,
> Greg McLachan
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 08:02:29 +1100
> From: Anne Brophy <>
> To: Stephen Ambrose <>
> Cc: calyptorhynchus <>, Carl Clifford
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Ponant Cruises
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> I receive emails from Ponant but I believe that?s my fault as I entered a competition to travel to the Antarctic with them...
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> They do advertise with glossy inserts in the SMH quite frequently!
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> Kind regards,
> Anne
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>> On 4 Feb 2019, at 15:53, Stephen Ambrose <> wrote:
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>> Hi John,
>>
>> I?ve not received anything from Ponant either.  But a friend of mine (not a birdwatcher) went on their Antarctic cruise about 3 years ago and there was an ornithologist on board who gave lectures and identified the birds they encountered, so they probably have a bird list for that cruise at least.  I don?t know about the other Ponant cruises, though.
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>> Stephen Ambrose
>> Ryde, NSW
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>> From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of calyptorhynchus
>> Sent: 4 February 2019 3:25 PM
>> To: Carl Clifford <>
>> Cc: Chris Lloyd <>;
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Ponant Cruises
>>
>> If I got one of these emails i?d Reply and ask to see the bird list for each of their cruises.
>>
>> John Leonard
>>
>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 14:33 Carl Clifford <> wrote:
>> Yes, I have received a few. I guess they bought your address as part of a job lot from a dealer. It is a not uncommon practice in the world of marketing. I find the Ponant emails rather unsettling, as I would never have cash to go on one.
>>
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>> On Monday, February 4, 2019, Chris Lloyd <> wrote:
>> I have recently started receiving unsolicited email from this cruise company to an address I only use for private material. I am quite used to receiving such email on a commercial email address including numerous generous offers from various Nigerian agencies. I have asked the company where it got the email address but have not been overwhelmed with the response. Have others received such unsolicited material?
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> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 09:12:38 +1030
> From: Peter Waanders <>
> To: Birding Aus <>
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] last seats on 2019 tours (Advertisement)
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> Hi all,
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> Feel like boosting your life list this year? Or just great birding in
> out-of-the way places with like-minded people? We have only 1 or 2 seats
> left on the following 2019 tours:
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> - Malaysia, June
> - 9 Grasswrens (standard), July
> - 9 Grasswrens (comfortable), Aug
> - Top End, Sep
> - Grey Falcon/Letter-winged Kites, Sep
> - Six Grasswrens, Oct
> - Western SA splits, Nov.
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> Check our website for details or feel free to contact me any time!
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 00:17:27 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Kirri Hardy <>
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> Subject: [Birding-Aus] White-throated needletail
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> Hello
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> This is a message more specifically for Mike Tarburton for his records
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> About 8-10 WTNT's (not many) were seen this morning flying above the road that leads towards Tyalgum/ out of Murwillumbah NSW
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> About 1Km from the Hare Krishna Community turn off
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> Kirri :D
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 13:47:53 +1100
> From: Sandy Gilmore <>
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> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Australian Swiftlets in NSW
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> On Saturday 2nd February at 5.15 Eastern Summer Time between Goonengerry
> and Repentance Creek, north-eastern N.S.W., I looked vertically and saw
> about 100 Australian Swiftlets fly overhead about 30 metres above the
> ground, on a ridge with a mixture of orchard and pasture and adjoining
> slopes and gullies with regrowth rainforest. This appears to have been the
> tail end of what could have been a bigger flock.
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> At first glance I thought they were martins but their wing profiles and
> flight looked too swift like, and I then saw they were grey where martins
> would be blue. All  were flying eastward with substantial gliding but
> occasionally one would spread its tail and slow rapidly as though catching
> an insect.
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> Half an hour earlier I had seen greyish white flashes when looking
> horizontally about 250 metres to the east of the sighting location, but,
> without my binoculars I had no idea what bird species they could have been,
> although the subsequent closer sighting suggests they may have been
> swiftlets.
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> It is tempting to speculate that the very wet conditions in north
> Queensland had driven them further south than usual.
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> Sandy Gilmore
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> Goonengerry, N.S.W. 2482
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