To: "Jill Dark" <>, "Philip Veerman" <>, "'Greg and Val Clancy'" <>, "'calyptorhynchus'" <>, <>
Subject: feather
From: "Greg and Val Clancy" <>
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 22:33:37 +1100
Hi Jill,
Good suggestion but this feather is green where it would be brown and has too much yellow and the yellow area is the wrong shape.
From: Jill Dark
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] feather
Could it be a female or immature Satin Bowerbird?
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] feather

I looked at HANZAB too (today but not yesterday). Yes HANZAB differs from the Pizzey & Knight field guide in that feature. I suspect that is all it is. As to the question is which I more correct and are all individuals the same?  I don’t know. However the HANZAB underwing picture does show the inner webs of the primaries as dull yellow (though the upperwing picture does not). I don’t agree about “no yellow patch in that species” but not as much of the feather as the one John provided. I can’t find anything else that matches. The photo of the feather that John provided shows the upperside. The colour we are commenting on (not the green part) and comparing from these two references, is visible on only the underside of the feathers. It would not be unusual for the underside to be duller in colour than the upperside. So for now I still feel it matches. If John provides another photo of the underside, I would like to see that. I think that would help. I suspect it would be a better match.




From: Greg and Val Clancy [
Sent: Sunday, 27 January, 2019 1:41 PM
To: Philip Veerman; 'calyptorhynchus';
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] feather


Hi Philip and John,


My first impression as well was a Rainbow Lorikeet but that has been ruled out by Philip and I agree with his reasons.  It is not a Wompoo Fruit-Dove.  I checked in HANZAB and the underside of the remiges (primaries and secondaries) are grey grading to chestnut at base – no yellow patch in that species.  I can’t see any other parrot or pigeon species that has that pattern.  Could it be a foreign cage bird that has escaped?





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