Two "ladders

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Subject: Two "ladders
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 09:16:32 +1000
I wonder what aspect you are referring to as "ribbed" I see them as barred.
Barred feathers are entirely normal in a whole range of birds, many raptors,
waders, black-cockatoos, cuckoos, etc. Maybe Jack was referring to the shape
and Harry referring to the pattern, or both. I am not sure. 


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Harry Nyström
Sent: Thursday, 6 September, 2018 6:47 PM
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Subject: Two "ladders


Those are the innermost secondaries.

But maybe someone else could know or have an educated guess on why they are


to 6. syysk. 2018 klo 11.17  kirjoitti:

> Hi
> Just looking at an image of an Australasian Darter (male, breeding I
> photographed a couple of weeks ago in the Botanical Gardens in Cairns.
> Photographed from behind with wings drying. Can any ornithologist tell me
> what the two "ladder-like" feathers are next to its body? I cannot find
> answer anywhere.
> Thanks in advance
> David in Blackheath

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