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Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 58, Issue 4

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Subject: Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 58, Issue 4
From: milton smith <>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 09:30:30 +1000
Do Queensland Councils actually Have Environmental Officers in their employ?
Is the Queensland Government actually Pro-active in protecting its natural
environment  and wildlife?
I have also submitted an online complaint rearding this bulldozing incident

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>    1. Winton, Qld (Brian & Meg)
>    2. Bengal Florican Rescued (Burnice Starkey)
>    3. Bengal Florican Rescued (Burnice Starkey)
>    4. Re: Winton, Qld (Martin Butterfield)
>    5. Re: Winton, Qld (Denise Goodfellow)
>    6. Re: Winton, Qld (Martin Butterfield)
>    7. Re: Winton, Qld (Greg and Val Clancy)
>    8. Re: Winton, Qld (Martin Butterfield)
>    9. Re: Winton, Qld (Denise Goodfellow)
>   10. Re: Winton, Qld (Susie Duncan)
>   11. Re: Winton, Qld (Richard Nowotny)
>   12. Re: Winton, Qld (Graeme Stevens)
>   13. Re: Winton, Qld (Alan Gillanders)
>   14. Re: Winton, Qld (Greg and Val Clancy)
>   15. Re: Winton, Qld (Charles)
>   16. Re: Winton, Qld (Falk Wicker)
>   17. Re: Winton, Qld (Denise Goodfellow)
>   18. Re: Winton, Qld (martin cachard)
>   19. Re: Winton, Qld (martin cachard)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 18:26:12 +1000
> From: "Brian & Meg" <>
> To: <>
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld, you
> will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and began
> using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around some of
> the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up along
> the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but we
> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were struggling
> to find somewhere to shelter.
> Brian Johnson
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 21:47:37 +0000
> From: Burnice Starkey <>
> To: Birding-Aus <>
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Bengal Florican Rescued
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> When visiting Cambodia I hired a local guide and was rewarded with 9
> Lifers in a couple of hours.
> The organisation is Cambodia Bird Guide Association (CBGA). They have
> recently issued their first newsletter.x-thread://196668232/
>
> They wrote:
>
> We are excited to share a happy news that our critically endangered Bengal
> Florican that we rescued earlier in June is now well in its own habitat. It
> has been released after one-month treatment by the expert team from ACCB.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 21:47:44 +0000
> From: Burnice Starkey <>
> To: Birding-Aus <>
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Bengal Florican Rescued
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 08:17:48 +1000
> From: Martin Butterfield <>
> To: "Brian & Meg" <>
> Cc: birding-aus NEW <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> Any idea why they did that, other than "the bulldozer was just sitting
> there costing ratepayers money"?  Presumably the rushes will contribute to
> preserving the climate by being set alight.
>
> Martin Butterfield
> http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>
> On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg <> wrote:
>
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld, you
> > will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> began
> > using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around some of
> > the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> > afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up along
> > the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> > removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but
> we
> > did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were struggling
> > to find somewhere to shelter.
> > Brian Johnson
> > <HR>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 07:54:39 +0930
> From: Denise Goodfellow <>
> To: Martin Butterfield <>
> Cc: Brian & Meg <>, birding-aus
>         <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> One more tourist attraction removed by the sounds of it.
>
> Denise
>
>
> On 7 Aug 2018, at 7:47 am, Martin Butterfield <>
> wrote:
>
> > Any idea why they did that, other than "the bulldozer was just sitting
> > there costing ratepayers money"?  Presumably the rushes will contribute
> to
> > preserving the climate by being set alight.
> >
> > Martin Butterfield
> > http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
> >
> > On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg <> wrote:
> >
> >> For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> you
> >> will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> began
> >> using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around some
> of
> >> the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> >> afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up along
> >> the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> >> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but
> we
> >> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were
> struggling
> >> to find somewhere to shelter.
> >> Brian Johnson
> >> <HR>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 08:39:34 +1000
> From: Martin Butterfield <>
> To: Denise Goodfellow <>
> Cc: "Brian & Meg" <>, birding-aus
>         <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> Good call Denise!  The visitwinton site has birdwatching prominently
> mentioned
> <
> http://www.experiencewinton.com.au/documents/41324958/41623649/Birdwatching%20Locations.pdf
> >
> including
>
> > Council Sewerage Treatment Ponds A popular spot with many birdwatchers
> > that visit Winton, the Council Sewerage Treatment Ponds are a prime
> > location to find birds of many different species. As these are Council
> > facilities, please check with the Winton Shire Council before visiting
> > them?contact the Shire Office (weekdays 8.30am?5.00pm) on (07) 4657 2666.
> > Notable birds: Australian Spotted Crake; Baillon?s Crake; birds:
> Australian
> > Spotted Crake; Baillon?s Crake; Pink Australian Spotted Crake; Baillon?s
> > Crake; Pink-eared Duck; Little Grassbird.
>
> I guess someone is busy editing that entry as I type!
>
>
> Martin Butterfield
> http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>
> On 7 August 2018 at 08:24, Denise Goodfellow <>
> wrote:
>
> > One more tourist attraction removed by the sounds of it.
> >
> > Denise
> >
> >
> > On 7 Aug 2018, at 7:47 am, Martin Butterfield <>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Any idea why they did that, other than "the bulldozer was just sitting
> > > there costing ratepayers money"?  Presumably the rushes will contribute
> > to
> > > preserving the climate by being set alight.
> > >
> > > Martin Butterfield
> > > http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
> > >
> > > On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg <>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> > you
> > >> will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> > began
> > >> using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around some
> > of
> > >> the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> > >> afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> along
> > >> the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> > >> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out
> but
> > we
> > >> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were
> > struggling
> > >> to find somewhere to shelter.
> > >> Brian Johnson
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 11:47:46 +1000
> From: "Greg and Val Clancy" <>
> To: "Martin Butterfield" <>, "Brian & Meg"
>         <>
> Cc: "birding-aus NEW" <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> We were there last week and I photographed the Australian Spotted Crake
> and
> a Baillon's Crake.  The others heard a number of Spotless Crakes.  The
> place
> was alive with birds.  This is outrageous and I have 'phoned Winton Shire
> Council.  I am waiting for a response from the person in charge.  When I
> get
> a name I will post it and others could then also 'phone and protest,
> unless
> of course there is a very valid reason, which I doubt.
>
> Greg Clancy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Butterfield
> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 8:17 AM
> To: Brian & Meg
> Cc: birding-aus NEW
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
>
> Any idea why they did that, other than "the bulldozer was just sitting
> there costing ratepayers money"?  Presumably the rushes will contribute to
> preserving the climate by being set alight.
>
> Martin Butterfield
> http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>
> On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg <> wrote:
>
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld, you
> > will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> > began
> > using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around some of
> > the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> > afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up along
> > the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> > removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but
> we
> > did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were struggling
> > to find somewhere to shelter.
> > Brian Johnson
> > <HR>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:12:35 +1000
> From: Martin Butterfield <>
> To: Greg and Val Clancy <>
> Cc: "Brian & Meg" <>, birding-aus NEW
>         <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> Pending Greg's update perhaps people could call the number listed on the
> website as shown in my post: (07) 4657 2666.!
>
> Martin Butterfield
> http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>
> On 7 August 2018 at 11:47, Greg and Val Clancy <> wrote:
>
> > We were there last week and I photographed the Australian Spotted Crake
> > and a Baillon's Crake.  The others heard a number of Spotless Crakes.
> The
> > place was alive with birds.  This is outrageous and I have 'phoned Winton
> > Shire Council.  I am waiting for a response from the person in charge.
> > When I get a name I will post it and others could then also 'phone and
> > protest, unless of course there is a very valid reason, which I doubt.
> >
> > Greg Clancy
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Martin Butterfield
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 8:17 AM
> > To: Brian & Meg
> > Cc: birding-aus NEW
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> >
> >
> > Any idea why they did that, other than "the bulldozer was just sitting
> > there costing ratepayers money"?  Presumably the rushes will contribute
> to
> > preserving the climate by being set alight.
> >
> > Martin Butterfield
> > http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
> >
> > On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg <> wrote:
> >
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld, you
> >> will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> >> began
> >> using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around some
> of
> >> the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> >> afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up along
> >> the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> >> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but
> we
> >> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were
> struggling
> >> to find somewhere to shelter.
> >> Brian Johnson
> >> <HR>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:15:47 +0930
> From: Denise Goodfellow <>
> To: Martin Butterfield <>
> Cc: Greg <>, Brian & Meg <>,
>         birding-aus <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> I?ve just filled in a complaints form with the following:
>
> I understand that most of the bullrushes have been removed from the Winton
> Sewage Treatment Ponds.  These, according to my contacts, were a prime spot
> for birdwatchers to find hard-to-see crakes and grass birds.   In case you
> think birdwatching is a small market - there are about 50 million in the
> USA alone (the subject of my PhD) and after the Americas Australia is the
> place they most want to visit.  You've just given them a reason not to
> visit Winton.
>
> Denise
>
> On 7 Aug 2018, at 11:42 am, Martin Butterfield <>
> wrote:
>
> > Pending Greg's update perhaps people could call the number listed on the
> > website as shown in my post: (07) 4657 2666.!
> >
> > Martin Butterfield
> > http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
> >
> > On 7 August 2018 at 11:47, Greg and Val Clancy <>
> wrote:
> >
> >> We were there last week and I photographed the Australian Spotted Crake
> >> and a Baillon's Crake.  The others heard a number of Spotless Crakes.
> The
> >> place was alive with birds.  This is outrageous and I have 'phoned
> Winton
> >> Shire Council.  I am waiting for a response from the person in charge.
> >> When I get a name I will post it and others could then also 'phone and
> >> protest, unless of course there is a very valid reason, which I doubt.
> >>
> >> Greg Clancy
> >>
> >> -----Original Message----- From: Martin Butterfield
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 8:17 AM
> >> To: Brian & Meg
> >> Cc: birding-aus NEW
> >> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> >>
> >>
> >> Any idea why they did that, other than "the bulldozer was just sitting
> >> there costing ratepayers money"?  Presumably the rushes will contribute
> to
> >> preserving the climate by being set alight.
> >>
> >> Martin Butterfield
> >> http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
> >>
> >> On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg <> wrote:
> >>
> >> For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> you
> >>> will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> >>> began
> >>> using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around some
> of
> >>> the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> >>> afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> along
> >>> the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> >>> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out
> but we
> >>> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were
> struggling
> >>> to find somewhere to shelter.
> >>> Brian Johnson
> >>> <HR>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:52:17 +1000
> From: "Susie Duncan" <>
> To: "'Greg and Val Clancy'" <>, "'Martin
>         Butterfield'" <>, "'Brian & Meg'"
>         <>
> Cc: "'birding-aus NEW'" <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="UTF-8"
>
> Good work Greg. IT's important for local government to acknowledge that
> they have done damage to both the environment and their local tourism
> economy.
>
> Susie Duncan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of Greg
> and Val Clancy
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 11:48 AM
> To: Martin Butterfield <>; Brian & Meg <
> >
> Cc: birding-aus NEW <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
>
> We were there last week and I photographed the Australian Spotted Crake
> and a Baillon's Crake.  The others heard a number of Spotless Crakes.  The
> place was alive with birds.  This is outrageous and I have 'phoned Winton
> Shire Council.  I am waiting for a response from the person in charge.
> When I get a name I will post it and others could then also 'phone and
> protest, unless of course there is a very valid reason, which I doubt.
>
> Greg Clancy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Butterfield
> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 8:17 AM
> To: Brian & Meg
> Cc: birding-aus NEW
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
>
> Any idea why they did that, other than "the bulldozer was just sitting
> there costing ratepayers money"?  Presumably the rushes will contribute to
> preserving the climate by being set alight.
>
> Martin Butterfield
> http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>
> On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg <> wrote:
>
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> > you will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in
> > and began using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes
> > around some of the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive
> > with birds. This afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the
> > bullrushes piled up along the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously,
> > this debris will need to be removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the
> > birds had already moved out but we did manage to see a few of the
> > crakes and grassbirds that were struggling to find somewhere to
> > shelter.
> > Brian Johnson
> > <HR>
> > <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
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> > <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
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> > http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
> > </HR>
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:53:40 +1000
> From: "Richard Nowotny" <>
> To: <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> Message-ID: <@bigpond.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8"
>
> I called to convey my disappointment and concern.
>
> What an extraordinary decision. Talk about a country town shooting itself
> in the foot.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf
> Of Martin Butterfield
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 12:13 PM
> To: Greg and Val Clancy
> Cc: Brian & Meg; birding-aus NEW
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
>
>
>
> Pending Greg's update perhaps people could call the number listed on the
> website as shown in my post: (07) 4657 2666!
>
> Martin Butterfield
>
> http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7 August 2018 at 11:47, Greg and Val Clancy <> wrote:
>
>
>
> > We were there last week and I photographed the Australian Spotted Crake
> and a Baillon's Crake.  The others heard a number of Spotless Crakes.  The
> place was alive with birds.
>
> > This is outrageous and I have 'phoned Winton Shire Council.  I am
> waiting for a response from the person in charge.
>
> > When I get a name I will post it and others could then also 'phone and
> protest, unless of course there is a very valid reason, which I doubt.
>
> > Greg Clancy
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message----- From: Martin Butterfield
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 8:17 AM
>
> > To: Brian & Meg
>
> > Cc: birding-aus NEW
>
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Any idea why they did that, other than "the bulldozer was just sitting
>
> > there costing ratepayers money"?  Presumably the rushes will contribute
> to
>
> > preserving the climate by being set alight.
>
> >
>
> > Martin Butterfield
>
> > http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg <> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld, you
>
> >> will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
>
> >> began
>
> >> using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around some
> of
>
> >> the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
>
> >> afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up along
>
> >> the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
>
> >> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but
> we
>
> >> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were
> struggling
>
> >> to find somewhere to shelter.
>
> >> Brian Johnson
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 02:56:26 +0000
> From: Graeme Stevens <>
> To: Denise Goodfellow <>, Martin Butterfield
>         <>
> Cc: Brian & Meg <>, birding-aus
>         <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> Message-ID:
>         <
> 
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>
> There's an email address on the Council's website for their Tourism
> Officer 
>
>
> He just received the benefit of my opinion!
>
>
> Graeme Stevens
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of
> Denise Goodfellow <>
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 12:45 PM
> To: Martin Butterfield
> Cc: Brian & Meg; birding-aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
>
> I?ve just filled in a complaints form with the following:
>
> I understand that most of the bullrushes have been removed from the Winton
> Sewage Treatment Ponds.  These, according to my contacts, were a prime spot
> for birdwatchers to find hard-to-see crakes and grass birds.   In case you
> think birdwatching is a small market - there are about 50 million in the
> USA alone (the subject of my PhD) and after the Americas Australia is the
> place they most want to visit.  You've just given them a reason not to
> visit Winton.
>
> Denise
>
> On 7 Aug 2018, at 11:42 am, Martin Butterfield <>
> wrote:
>
> > Pending Greg's update perhaps people could call the number listed on the
> > website as shown in my post: (07) 4657 2666.!
> >
> > Martin Butterfield
> >
> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffranmart.blogspot.com.au%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C360acb7428fc482084f408d5fc10e75d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636692071930040506&amp;sdata=08%2FjqXBIm%2By%2Fac6RtyMMv5pfnh9d86a%2BfwoFX1IpaR8%3D&amp;reserved=0
> >
> > On 7 August 2018 at 11:47, Greg and Val Clancy <>
> wrote:
> >
> >> We were there last week and I photographed the Australian Spotted Crake
> >> and a Baillon's Crake.  The others heard a number of Spotless Crakes.
> The
> >> place was alive with birds.  This is outrageous and I have 'phoned
> Winton
> >> Shire Council.  I am waiting for a response from the person in charge.
> >> When I get a name I will post it and others could then also 'phone and
> >> protest, unless of course there is a very valid reason, which I doubt.
> >>
> >> Greg Clancy
> >>
> >> -----Original Message----- From: Martin Butterfield
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 8:17 AM
> >> To: Brian & Meg
> >> Cc: birding-aus NEW
> >> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> >>
> >>
> >> Any idea why they did that, other than "the bulldozer was just sitting
> >> there costing ratepayers money"?  Presumably the rushes will contribute
> to
> >> preserving the climate by being set alight.
> >>
> >> Martin Butterfield
> >>
> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffranmart.blogspot.com.au%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C360acb7428fc482084f408d5fc10e75d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636692071930040506&amp;sdata=08%2FjqXBIm%2By%2Fac6RtyMMv5pfnh9d86a%2BfwoFX1IpaR8%3D&amp;reserved=0
> >>
> >> On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg <> wrote:
> >>
> >> For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> you
> >>> will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> >>> began
> >>> using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around some
> of
> >>> the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> >>> afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> along
> >>> the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> >>> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out
> but we
> >>> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were
> struggling
> >>> to find somewhere to shelter.
> >>> Brian Johnson
> >>> <HR>
> >>> <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
> >>> <BR> 
> >>> <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> >>> <BR>
> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbirding-aus.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fbirding-aus_birding-aus.org&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C360acb7428fc482084f408d5fc10e75d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636692071930040506&amp;sdata=mP58SLUexxQcve4%2BGZ8nE2HvxM6SnYTtSaz2sri3TZk%3D&amp;reserved=0
> >>> </HR>
> >>>
> >>> <HR>
> >> <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
> >> <BR> 
> >> <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> >> <BR>
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> >> </HR>
> >>
> > <HR>
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> > <BR> 
> > <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
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> </HR>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 16:48:46 +1000
> From: Alan Gillanders <>
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> Message-ID:
>         <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> Greetings,
>
> I've sent a questioning email also.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
>
> On 6/08/2018 6:26 PM, Brian & Meg wrote:
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> you will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> began using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around
> some of the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds.
> This afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> along the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but we
> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were struggling
> to find somewhere to shelter.
> > Brian Johnson
> > <HR>
> > <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
> > <BR> 
> > <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> > <BR> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
> > </HR>
> >
>
> --
> Alan's Wildlife Tours
> 2 Mather Road
> Yungaburra 4884
>
> Phone 07 4095 3784
> Mobile 0408 953 786
> http://www.alanswildlifetours.com.au
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 20:03:21 +1000
> From: "Greg and Val Clancy" <>
> To: <>, "Alan Gillanders"
>         <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
>         reply-type=response
>
> I had to go to a meeting all afternoon so couldn't follow up with Winton
> Council.  I did not get a call from Phil Krisansky, Director of Works, as
> promised.  I will call him tomorrow.  Others could do the same.
>
> Greg Clancy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Gillanders
> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 4:48 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
>
> Greetings,
>
> I've sent a questioning email also.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
>
> On 6/08/2018 6:26 PM, Brian & Meg wrote:
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> you
> > will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> > began using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around
> > some of the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds.
> > This afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> > along the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to
> be
> > removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but
> we
> > did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were
> struggling
> > to find somewhere to shelter.
> > Brian Johnson
> > <HR>
> > <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
> > <BR> 
> > <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> > <BR> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
> > </HR>
> >
>
> --
> Alan's Wildlife Tours
> 2 Mather Road
> Yungaburra 4884
>
> Phone 07 4095 3784
> Mobile 0408 953 786
> http://www.alanswildlifetours.com.au
>
> <HR>
> <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
> <BR> 
> <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> <BR> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
> </HR>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 20:09:08 +1000
> From: Charles <>
> To: Greg and Val Clancy <>
> Cc:  Alan Gillanders
>         <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
>
> Any photos of the destruction?
>
> Warm Regards,
> Charles Hunter
> +61 402 907 577
>
> > On 7 Aug 2018, at 8:03 pm, Greg and Val Clancy <>
> wrote:
> >
> > I had to go to a meeting all afternoon so couldn't follow up with Winton
> Council.  I did not get a call from Phil Krisansky, Director of Works, as
> promised.  I will call him tomorrow.  Others could do the same.
> >
> > Greg Clancy
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Alan Gillanders
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 4:48 PM
> > To: 
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I've sent a questioning email also.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> >> On 6/08/2018 6:26 PM, Brian & Meg wrote:
> >> For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> you will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> began using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around
> some of the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds.
> This afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> along the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but we
> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were struggling
> to find somewhere to shelter.
> >> Brian Johnson
> >> <HR>
> >> <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
> >> <BR> 
> >> <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> >> <BR>
> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
> >> </HR>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Alan's Wildlife Tours
> > 2 Mather Road
> > Yungaburra 4884
> >
> > Phone 07 4095 3784
> > Mobile 0408 953 786
> > http://www.alanswildlifetours.com.au
> >
> > <HR>
> > <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
> > <BR> 
> > <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> > <BR> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
> > </HR>
> >
> > <HR>
> > <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
> > <BR> 
> > <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> > <BR> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
> > </HR>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 16:36:14 +1000
> From: Falk Wicker <>
> To: Graeme Stevens <>
> Cc: Denise Goodfellow <>, Martin Butterfield
>         <>,  "Brian & Meg" <>,
>         birding-aus <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> Message-ID:
>         <CAMk+vTJq33Po6GktT+p=9tDZNfGs-gkx0BpSd=
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Thanks for forwarding the contact details of the tourism officer, Graeme!
> I just sent him an email as well, stating my disappointment.
>
> Falk
>
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Graeme Stevens <>
> wrote:
>
> > There's an email address on the Council's website for their Tourism
> > Officer 
> >
> >
> > He just received the benefit of my opinion!
> >
> >
> > Graeme Stevens
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of
> > Denise Goodfellow <>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 12:45 PM
> > To: Martin Butterfield
> > Cc: Brian & Meg; birding-aus
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> >
> > I?ve just filled in a complaints form with the following:
> >
> > I understand that most of the bullrushes have been removed from the
> Winton
> > Sewage Treatment Ponds.  These, according to my contacts, were a prime
> spot
> > for birdwatchers to find hard-to-see crakes and grass birds.   In case
> you
> > think birdwatching is a small market - there are about 50 million in the
> > USA alone (the subject of my PhD) and after the Americas Australia is the
> > place they most want to visit.  You've just given them a reason not to
> > visit Winton.
> >
> > Denise
> >
> > On 7 Aug 2018, at 11:42 am, Martin Butterfield <>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Pending Greg's update perhaps people could call the number listed on
> the
> > > website as shown in my post: (07) 4657 2666.!
> > >
> > > Martin Butterfield
> > > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > http%3A%2F%2Ffranmart.blogspot.com.au%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%
> > 7C360acb7428fc482084f408d5fc10e75d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa
> > aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636692071930040506&sdata=08%2FjqXBIm%2By%
> > 2Fac6RtyMMv5pfnh9d86a%2BfwoFX1IpaR8%3D&reserved=0
> > >
> > > On 7 August 2018 at 11:47, Greg and Val Clancy <>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> We were there last week and I photographed the Australian Spotted
> Crake
> > >> and a Baillon's Crake.  The others heard a number of Spotless Crakes.
> > The
> > >> place was alive with birds.  This is outrageous and I have 'phoned
> > Winton
> > >> Shire Council.  I am waiting for a response from the person in charge.
> > >> When I get a name I will post it and others could then also 'phone and
> > >> protest, unless of course there is a very valid reason, which I doubt.
> > >>
> > >> Greg Clancy
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message----- From: Martin Butterfield
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 8:17 AM
> > >> To: Brian & Meg
> > >> Cc: birding-aus NEW
> > >> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Any idea why they did that, other than "the bulldozer was just sitting
> > >> there costing ratepayers money"?  Presumably the rushes will
> contribute
> > to
> > >> preserving the climate by being set alight.
> > >>
> > >> Martin Butterfield
> > >> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > http%3A%2F%2Ffranmart.blogspot.com.au%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%
> > 7C360acb7428fc482084f408d5fc10e75d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa
> > aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636692071930040506&sdata=08%2FjqXBIm%2By%
> > 2Fac6RtyMMv5pfnh9d86a%2BfwoFX1IpaR8%3D&reserved=0
> > >>
> > >> On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg <>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> > you
> > >>> will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> > >>> began
> > >>> using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around
> some
> > of
> > >>> the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> > >>> afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> > along
> > >>> the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> > >>> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out
> > but we
> > >>> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were
> > struggling
> > >>> to find somewhere to shelter.
> > >>> Brian Johnson
> > >>> <HR>
> > >>> <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
> > >>> <BR> 
> > >>> <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> > >>> <BR> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > http%3A%2F%2Fbirding-aus.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%
> > 2Fbirding-aus_birding-aus.org&data=02%7C01%7C%
> > 7C360acb7428fc482084f408d5fc10e75d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa
> > aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636692071930040506&sdata=mP58SLUexxQcve4%
> > 2BGZ8nE2HvxM6SnYTtSaz2sri3TZk%3D&reserved=0
> > >>> </HR>
> > >>>
> > >>> <HR>
> > >> <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
> > >> <BR> 
> > >> <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> > >> <BR> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > http%3A%2F%2Fbirding-aus.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%
> > 2Fbirding-aus_birding-aus.org&data=02%7C01%7C%
> > 7C360acb7428fc482084f408d5fc10e75d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa
> > aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636692071930040506&sdata=mP58SLUexxQcve4%
> > 2BGZ8nE2HvxM6SnYTtSaz2sri3TZk%3D&reserved=0
> > >> </HR>
> > >>
> > > <HR>
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> > > <BR> 
> > > <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> > > <BR> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > http%3A%2F%2Fbirding-aus.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%
> > 2Fbirding-aus_birding-aus.org&data=02%7C01%7C%
> > 7C360acb7428fc482084f408d5fc10e75d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa
> > aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636692071930040506&sdata=mP58SLUexxQcve4%
> > 2BGZ8nE2HvxM6SnYTtSaz2sri3TZk%3D&reserved=0
> > > </HR>
> >
> > <HR>
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> > <BR> 
> > <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
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> > http%3A%2F%2Fbirding-aus.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%
> > 2Fbirding-aus_birding-aus.org&data=02%7C01%7C%
> > 7C360acb7428fc482084f408d5fc10e75d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa
> > aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636692071930040506&sdata=mP58SLUexxQcve4%
> > 2BGZ8nE2HvxM6SnYTtSaz2sri3TZk%3D&reserved=0
> > </HR>
> > <HR>
> > <BR> Birding-Aus mailing list
> > <BR> 
> > <BR> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> > <BR> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
> > </HR>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Falk Wicker
> 14 Edward Street
> Healesville 3777 Victoria
> Australia
>
> private - 
> work - 
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:43:28 +0930
> From: Denise Goodfellow <>
> To: Graeme Stevens <>
> Cc: Martin Butterfield <>, Brian & Meg
>         <>, birding-aus <
> >
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=windows-1252
>
> Good work!
>
> Denise
> On 7 Aug 2018, at 12:26 pm, Graeme Stevens <> wrote:
>
> > There's an email address on the Council's website for their Tourism
> Officer 
> >
> > He just received the benefit of my opinion!
> >
> > Graeme Stevens
> >
> > From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of
> Denise Goodfellow <>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 12:45 PM
> > To: Martin Butterfield
> > Cc: Brian & Meg; birding-aus
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> >
> > I?ve just filled in a complaints form with the following:
> >
> > I understand that most of the bullrushes have been removed from the
> Winton Sewage Treatment Ponds.  These, according to my contacts, were a
> prime spot for birdwatchers to find hard-to-see crakes and grass birds.
>  In case you think birdwatching is a small market - there are about 50
> million in the USA alone (the subject of my PhD) and after the Americas
> Australia is the place they most want to visit.  You've just given them a
> reason not to visit Winton.
> >
> > Denise
> >
> > On 7 Aug 2018, at 11:42 am, Martin Butterfield <>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Pending Greg's update perhaps people could call the number listed on
> the
> > > website as shown in my post: (07) 4657 2666.!
> > >
> > > Martin Butterfield
> > >
> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffranmart.blogspot.com.au%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C360acb7428fc482084f408d5fc10e75d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636692071930040506&amp;sdata=08%2FjqXBIm%2By%2Fac6RtyMMv5pfnh9d86a%2BfwoFX1IpaR8%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > >
> > > On 7 August 2018 at 11:47, Greg and Val Clancy <>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> We were there last week and I photographed the Australian Spotted
> Crake
> > >> and a Baillon's Crake.  The others heard a number of Spotless
> Crakes.  The
> > >> place was alive with birds.  This is outrageous and I have 'phoned
> Winton
> > >> Shire Council.  I am waiting for a response from the person in charge.
> > >> When I get a name I will post it and others could then also 'phone and
> > >> protest, unless of course there is a very valid reason, which I doubt.
> > >>
> > >> Greg Clancy
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message----- From: Martin Butterfield
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 8:17 AM
> > >> To: Brian & Meg
> > >> Cc: birding-aus NEW
> > >> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Any idea why they did that, other than "the bulldozer was just sitting
> > >> there costing ratepayers money"?  Presumably the rushes will
> contribute to
> > >> preserving the climate by being set alight.
> > >>
> > >> Martin Butterfield
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >> On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg <>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> you
> > >>> will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> > >>> began
> > >>> using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around
> some of
> > >>> the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> > >>> afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> along
> > >>> the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> > >>> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out
> but we
> > >>> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were
> struggling
> > >>> to find somewhere to shelter.
> > >>> Brian Johnson
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> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 09:02:26 +0000
> From: martin cachard <>
> To: Alan Gillanders <>,
>         "" <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> Message-ID:
>         <
> 
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>
> me too Alan!!!!
>
>
> I have always loved stopping by the ponds whenever I've visited
> Bladensburg NP nearby - it used to be nice to see birds like Spotless and
> Baillon's Crakes an hour before looking at Spinifexbirds,
> Chestmut-breastred Quail-thrush, Rufous-crowned Emu-wrens, and Painted
> Finch...
>
> now I fear that won't happen!!!
>
>
> martin cachard
>
>
> trinity beach, cairns, fnq
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of Alan
> Gillanders <>
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 4:48 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
>
> Greetings,
>
> I've sent a questioning email also.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
>
> On 6/08/2018 6:26 PM, Brian & Meg wrote:
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> you will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> began using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around
> some of the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds.
> This afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> along the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but we
> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were struggling
> to find somewhere to shelter.
> > Brian Johnson
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> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 10:06:45 +0000
> From: martin cachard <>
> To: Greg and Val Clancy <>,
>         "" <>, Alan
>         Gillanders <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> Message-ID:
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> 
> >
>
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> I will do the very same trhing Greg!!
>
>
> martin cachard
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of Greg
> and Val Clancy <>
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 8:03 PM
> To: ; Alan Gillanders
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
>
> I had to go to a meeting all afternoon so couldn't follow up with Winton
> Council.  I did not get a call from Phil Krisansky, Director of Works, as
> promised.  I will call him tomorrow.  Others could do the same.
>
> Greg Clancy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Gillanders
> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 4:48 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
>
> Greetings,
>
> I've sent a questioning email also.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
>
> On 6/08/2018 6:26 PM, Brian & Meg wrote:
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld, you
> > will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> > began using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around
> > some of the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds.
> > This afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> > along the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to
> be
> > removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but
> we
> > did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were struggling
> > to find somewhere to shelter.
> > Brian Johnson
> > <HR>
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> >
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