Australian Bird Guide

To: Tony Ashton <>
Subject: Australian Bird Guide
From: John Tongue <>
Date: Mon, 8 May 2017 02:49:53 +0000
Perhaps the Corvid Table being referred to is the one on p440?

> On 8 May 2017, at 11:24 AM, Tony Ashton <> wrote:
> No marked diff in print intensity any pages my copy, but typography overall
> rather jammed and layout ugly.
> Among major mistakes, pointer from crow/raven pages to table on P410. Not
> only no table re IDs, on 410, but no table anywhere that I can find.
> Another letdown is lack of description and/or illustration of subspecie
> diffs, in spite of promises otherwise beforehand.
> Some variability in quality of artists' work also apparent.
> Perhaps too much pre-release hype is rebounding on the reality of what is
> overall pretty good value for money.
> Cheers,
> Tony Ashton
> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Dave Torr <> wrote:
>> Reasons for a second edition?
>> On 8 May 2017 at 07:12, Phil Gregory <> wrote:
>>> This great new field guide has finally reached North Queensland, I am
>>> impressed overall but three things struck me as odd:
>>> 1. The decision to use wing length rather than overall length. Now this
>>> may be scientifically rigorous and all that, but it means old dinosaurs
>>> like me have to recalibrate relative size, and that is very hard and will
>>> take some getting used to.
>>> I like the weight being included, it’s great that this data is actually
>>> available as I sure couldn’t do it for many New Guinea species, but wish
>> I
>>> had the length to compare it with!
>>> 2. The index is based on the first name, so when i went to look up
>>> Shrike-tit i couldn’t find it, it’s there under Crested Shrike-tit. This
>>> way of doing it also seems idiosyncratic.
>>> 3, No Hornbill Friarbird, that’s an IOC species and has been for ages,
>>> they have just about everything else but not this one.  Anyone know why
>>> that got omitted? I think they base the list on IOC 5.4 but I’m pretty
>> sure
>>> it was on that as it predates Naretha Bluebonnet for example by some
>> time.
>>> It’s a nuisance for us as we are always on about it here when it comes to
>>> feed, and it’s not been in any of the books.
>>> Phil Gregory
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