Bird names

To: Mike Carter <>
Subject: Bird names
From: Michael Hunter <>
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:08:10 +0000
Dear Mike, Phil, Mick, Dave, all,

                                                Thanks for clarifying the names 
of bird taxonomy organisations,   I think.
  My mistake in attributing the BotW arrangement  to the IOC, apologies.
   Is there a list of World or Australian bird classifying agencies?  
   Is the IOC generally accepted as gospel?  Do they oversee genetic testing?  
Are names decided by a committee? Who?
    Will the Eastern and Western Night Parrots be split?

               Sincerely Yours


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> On 21 Apr 2017, at 1:51 pm, "Mike Carter" <> wrote:
> Michael, are you sure you're right about this? What is the publication date 
> for the 'Birds of the World' that you are using? Lynx is strongly tied to 
> BirdLife International who produce their own taxonomy often different and 
> more conservative than that of the IOC (international Ornithological 
> Congress).
> Cheers,
> Mike Carter, 03 5977 1262
> 181/160 Mornington-Tyabb Road
> Mornington, VIC 3931, Australia  
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> Hi All.
>         Following the Pitta name change posting I have been delving into 
> Lynx’s “Birds of the World” in which the current IOC taxonomy is used.
>         These are a quite fantastic two volumes, particularly for those bird 
> when the travelling around the world. For instance we twitched the Big Island 
> of Hawaii recently,( in conjunction with a Conference of course). The 
> available books on Hawaiian birds are OK, but  for an overview with pictures 
> of the surviving and extinct species and their distribution,  BotW  puts 
> everything into place.
>        The big revelation for out of touch  Australian twitchers like us is 
> the number of new Australian species created over the past few years.  We 
> thought that we had seen them all except the NP and Princess Parrot, but now 
> have to circumnavigate  Australia again to mop up  what were once subspecies 
> but now fully fledged species, possibly up to a dozen or more. ( Any excuse.)
>       Have not looked at the new Birds of Australia yet, will be interested 
> to see their take on the new species.
>       The BotW  definition of “species” is explained in the fine print 
> forward of (vol 2)  Birds of the World.  Although ultimately based on 
> molecular studies, (which themselves are subject to variable interpretation), 
> todays species seem to be defined as any discrete geographic population, with 
> even minimal morphological differences, until proved otherwise.
>        Australia’s one time Red-breasted Pitta, now Papuan Pitta , ssp 
> digglesei, is apparently so close to the ssp on the adjacent mainland New 
> Guinea, from where it is a seasonal migrant, that its subspecies status is 
> suspect and subject to further scrutiny.   Digglesei may disappear.
>                                         Cheers   Michael
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