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Subject: names
From: Maris Lauva <>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:05:48 +0000
So long as we recognise The Jabiru's neck isn't black.

One trouble with all the chops and changes is we each tend to prefer the names 
we 1st learnt so fragmenting popular opinion. I will not, however, ever refer 
to anything but a Willy Wagtail and stuff the officials.


From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of Greg and 
Val Clancy <>
Sent: Monday, 23 January 2017 3:21 PM
To: michael hunter; 
Subject: names

Hi Michael,

You mentioned the 'J' word.

The name Black-necked Stork was not imposed on us in recent decades, it is
and was the official common name of the bird in India and Australia as early
as the end of the 19th century.  I, like you, thought that some taxonomist
in the 1970s imposed this long and boring name on us when the Australian
indigenous name 'Jabiru' was so much better. However as you state 'Jabiru'
is not an Australian indigenous name.  It is a Tupi-Guarani name of South
America which means 'swollen neck'.  This is because the real Jabiru has a
bald head and neck and swells its neck in display.  Our slender necked birds
never have a swollen neck, except maybe when a large eel is being swallowed.
I learnt the bird as 'Jabiru' and still called it by that name in 1972 when
I saw my first wild bird near Grafton, NSW.  To call our beautiful bird
'Jabiru' is like calling our 'Emu' an 'Ostrich'.  They are related species
but are quite distinct.  So Michael when you see a Black-necked Stork flying
over you can always say to yourself 'there goes a Jabiru' but when treating
the species in publications, correspondence and at group meetings it is
always best to use the correct names as it otherwise may cause confusion and
we should teach younger birdos the correct names.

You might be happy to know that the 'Black-necked Stork' is likely to be
called the 'Satin Stork' in Australia and New Guinea when we can get more
genetic work done to prove that the race australis is genetically distinct
from the nominate race asiaticus of Asia.

"A rose by any other name".  I am sure that if you saw your first
Black-necked Stork and hadn't heard the incorrect name of 'Jabiru' you would
still have been enthralled.  I am captivated by the species despite its


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-----Original Message-----
From: michael hunter
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 5:26 PM
Subject: names

   Once again a few academics, mostly not Australian, if not Un-Australian,
are foisting otherworldly names onto us Aussie birders.

  Common names , NOT ENGLISH names, for Australian birds are names commonly
used by about 99% of Australian birdwatchers for our birds. It is appalling
that colourless English names like Black-necked Stork have been inflicted on
us by a few pseudo-academics who are presumably incapable of memorising
Scientific names.  Jabiru may be the common name of a South American Stork,
but changing the official “common” name for any birdwatcher witless enough
to confuse the two in the field was an amazing arrogance. One justification
was that people reading birdguides will be confused in not justified.

   These people are meddling with our Australian common names, which are ,
or were, spontaneous non-scientific vernacular.
   Among many examples, “Jabiru” and “Torres Straits Pigeon” had romantic
(in the broad sense folks) connotations lost in the bland generics we are
told to use instead. As a youth my first sighting of the legendary Jabiru
was very exciting, and stimulated a life-long interest in Birding.  Seeing a
Black-necked Stork would not have.

  “Willy Fantail”   They must be joking.



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