An interesting story.

To: Dominic Funnell <>
Subject: An interesting story.
From: mike.honeyman <>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 23:27:28 +0000

Hi Dom
The original article and the links I provided explain the utility of specimens 
and why photographs don't cut it.And while the kingfisher might be on display 
now, the point is that if preserved correctly it will still be available for 
research purposes in many different contexts in 10s of years to come.

Sent from my Samsung GALAXY S5

-------- Original message --------
From: Dominic Funnell <>
Date: 10/10/2015  10:09 am  (GMT+10:00)
To: Michael Honeyman <>
Cc: Peter Shute <>, 
Subject: An interesting story.

Hi Michael

I suppose what I was ineptly trying to say is that given the trend for new 
species of invertebrates to be described and classified without retention of 
voucher specimens and improving photographic techniques the often spouted 
reason for retaining specimens that is to describe species is becoming 
obsolete. To me this Kingfisher seems to have been retained for no stronger 
reason almost than no one has a male! Given that as I understand it the 
specimen was given to a local museum to display there seems little scientific 
justification for its retention. But as a complete amateur I could well be 
totally wrong - usually am!

On 10 Oct 2015 8:51 am, "Michael Honeyman" <> 
Hi DomI think there is a misconception that the only purpose of collecting is 
to have a voucher 
On 10 Oct 2015, at 09:06, Dominic Funnell <> 
I think the collection of a specimen of a bird that was always known to be 
there (males seen in 90s I believe) not completely necessary especially given 
the example of completely new invertebrate species to science having been 
described solely from HD photographs with no voucher specimens being retained. 
Surely blood and feather sample and HD photos more than adequate for a known 
species of vertebrate.


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