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Climate change does not bode well for picky eaters

To: Dave Torr <>
Subject: Climate change does not bode well for picky eaters
From: Ian May <>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:10:57 +1100
Yes, there is little doubt that the commercial Krill harvest would contribute to a decline in the pelagic food source however if you look at the numbers, it is most likely if the Cetacean competition for the same food source is as great as I think it could be, it will be uneconomic to harvest Krill soon, if not now.

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Dave Torr wrote:

I think increasing krill harvesting by humans will also play a role Ian!

On 23 January 2015 at 10:28, Ian May < <>> wrote:

    Thanks for your reply David.

    Yes I think "prior to ma's assault on whales and other cetaceans"
    the available food balance was probably of little concern
    regarding population survival, but the problem as I see it, is
    that now is a time when overall seabird numbers are artificially
    increased due to the absence of significant feeding competition
    from Cetaceans, and because of this, the entire seabird population
    is now at much greater risk of a crash from starvation if impacts
    on the same available food source are suddenly increased, as must
    be the case now, not from Climate Change, but from Cetacean
    feeding competition.

    Most people with an agricultural background will be aware of what
    happens to animals, both wildlife and domestic when severe drought
    descends on the country.  If my memory of J curve is correct, when
    a population exceeds the carrying capacity of its food source,
    there "will be" a significant population crash.  After this
    occurs, for species that have evolved to adapt to a boom bust
    cycle, most of these populations will recover, but as you would be
    aware, boom bust ecology is not how it is with seabirds and a
    major crash may well go beyond the tipping point for many of them.

    regards

    Ian May
    PO Box 110
    St Helens, TAS 7216

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    David Bishop wrote:

        Dear Ian,

        This sort of connectivity fascinates me. I cannot help but
        ponder your question as it makes one wonder, if you are
        correct, what were penguin numbers like prior to ma's assault
        on whales and other cetaceans? Perhaps the krill population
        was commensurately larger in those far off times?


        David  Bishop



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            On 23 Jan 2015, at 9:10 am, Ian May
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            Hello Laurie

            Not wanting to upset "the believers", I cannot help but
            wonder if these researchers ever considered that a decline
            of Antarctic Krill could be caused by the exponential
            increase of Cetaceans that has occurred over the past two
            decades.   Is it true that a current population estimate
of just one species, the humpback whale has now reached 80,000 individuals? About five years ago, the population
            estimate at that time had increased to 35,000 animals?
            See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cetaceans#Global_Population_Estimates or http://whaleone.com.au/whale-facts/

            As a part time researcher from a time nearing the end of
            the commercial whaling era when it was rare to sight a
            large whale in Australian waters, I occasionally pondered
            the effects on the pelagic world from competition on the
            basic marine food source impacted by the presence or
            absence of Cetaceans.
            My conclusion was that you cannot have your krill and eat
            it too.

            regards


            Ian May
            PO Box 110
            St Helens, 7216


            
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            Laurie Knight wrote:

                The following study contrasts the fortunes of
                Chinstrap and Gentoo Penguins

                see
                http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/01/150120121304.htm

                Original study: MJ Polito, WZ Trivelpiece, WP
                Patterson, NJ Karnovsky, CS Reiss, SD Emslie.
                Contrasting specialist and generalist patterns
                facilitate foraging niche partitioning in sympatric
                populations of Pygoscelis penguins. Marine Ecology
                Progress Series, 2015; 519: 221 DOI: 10.3354/meps11095
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