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help for frigatebird identification

To: DavidJames <>, MikeCarter <>, RohanClarke <>, JeffDavies <>
Subject: help for frigatebird identification
From: 茆世民 <>
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 19:05:38 +0800 (CST)

wow, a Great Frigatebird !! my lifer !!
 
Since frigatebirds are very rare here, even with SEABIRD guide books, the 
variations still confused us.
 
Thanks David and Mike, it's very informative and a lot help to us :)
 
Cheers,
Smew Mao
Hsinchu, Taiwan
 



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From: DavidJames
To: "MikeCarter";"RohanClarke";"JeffDavies";""
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Sent Date: Tue,27 May 2014 15:29:10 Asia/Taipei
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] help for frigatebird identification


Hi Smew and Mike,

thanks for passing this on Mike. I only watch birding-aus through the archives 
site and not always, but the archives is not always working lately. 
Anyway, to the point, I'd call it a Greater. The belly patch is quite pointy at 
the front and back, like a diamond (if you hide the spurs). Lesser has a  
triangular belly patch so it is never pointy at the front margin. CI Frigate 
has a hexagonal belly patch which can be broadly indented but never pointy at 
the front, and is always broad at the back. Greater usually has an oval belly 
patch, but it can be pinched at the front and back to look more like a diamond. 
The belly patch is out of range for lesser and CI, but in range (at the 
extreme) for Great. The spurs come off the middle-sides of the belly patch so 
that is wrong for Lesser (spurs at front of belly patch) but typical for CI and 
Great. They point straight out along the wing (good for Great and Lesser), not 
angling forward as in CI. The bill is not strikingly long for a frigatebird, 
which counts against CI. The alar bars on the upperwing are not very 
pronounced, which tends towards males and Great or Lesser but not CI. The 
innerwing is narrow and slender which tends towards Lesser or Great but away 
from CI. Thus there are  features that rule out Lesser and CI , while 
everything I can see suits Great well.

I hope this helps

 
Cheers,David JamesSydney==============================




 From: Mike Carter <> To: 'David James' 
<>; Rohan Clarke <>; Jeff 
Davies <>  Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2014 11:05 AM Subject: 
Fw: [Birding-Aus] help for frigatebird identification 
Have you seen this. In my opinion it is not a Lesser and I think most likely a 
Greater. What do you think?Mike Carter30 Canadian Bay RoadMount Eliza  VIC 



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