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Koel identification

To: 'John Graff' <>, Dave Torr <>
Subject: Koel identification
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 11:58:23 +1100
So where does "Eastern Koel" fit in? That's the name used in the Pizzey and 
Knight app and the Morcombe app.

Peter Shute 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus 
>  On Behalf Of John Graff
> Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014 11:39 AM
> To: Dave Torr
> Cc: Brian & Meg; birding-aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Koel identification
> 
> My understanding (whether it's correct is another story), is 
> that Pacific is the usual one across the mainland, but Asian 
> is the one most often reported from Christmas & Cocos
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 3 Feb 2014, at 6:32 am, "Dave Torr" <> wrote:
> > 
> > As with so many things, depends (probably) on your chosen taxonomy.
> > According to the IOC 4.1 list, Asian Koel (*Eudynamys scolopaceus*) 
> > gets as far as Borneo and the Lesser Sundas.
> > Pacific Koel (*Eudynamys orientalis*) has a subspecies (thus not 
> > split)
> > *cyanocephalus* with range "n Queensland to s New South Wales" and 
> > another ssp *subcyanocephalus* with range "nw Australia to 
> nw Queensland"
> > However - as my recent query on Heuglin's Gull in Thailand 
> shows - the 
> > IOC is not always correct - and a different taxonomy may give 
> > different answers! DIfferent ssp of this also occur in the 
> Indonesian 
> > archipelago and I guess either species could occur in the 
> northern parts of our domain!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On 3 February 2014 08:52, Brian & Meg 
> <> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Would the following be correct??? I'm trying to make sense 
> of where 
> >> this bird is really at.!!!!
> >> The Koel that we all see & hear in eastern Australia is the 
> >> Australian Koel which is a subspecies of the Pacific Koel. 
> The Koel 
> >> seen in the west (Indian Ocean area) is the Asian Koel - usually 
> >> reported from either Christmas Is, Cocos-Keeling &/or Ashmore Reef.
> >> Can anyone add to this assumption?
> >> Thanks
> >> Brian
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