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Yellow-spotted or Graceful Honeyeater?

To: "'Nikolas Haass'" <>, "'Lloyd Nielsen'" <>, <>, "'Jeff Crocombe'" <>, "'Jeff Davies'" <>
Subject: Yellow-spotted or Graceful Honeyeater?
From: "Doug Meredith" <>
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:41:08 +1000
I agree with you Nik. Looking at the wing tips and eye patch, it is a
yellow-spotted honey eater.

Cheers

-----Original Message-----
From: 
 On Behalf Of Nikolas Haass
Sent: Sunday, 8 September 2013 10:28 AM
To: Lloyd Nielsen; ; Jeff Crocombe; Jeff
Davies
Subject: Yellow-spotted or Graceful Honeyeater?

Thanks Lloyd,

Interesting, so in other words, you are saying that this is a juvenile
Graceful H/E?
Jeff C., do you have more pictures of this bird?
Any further comments on the Leaden Flycatcher?

Cheers,

Nikolas
 
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Nikolas Haass

Brisbane, QLD


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From: Lloyd Nielsen <>
To:  
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:24 AM
Subject: Yellow-spotted or Graceful Honeyeater?
 

It is a Graceful Honeyeater - if it were a Yellow-spotted, it would have
more prominent striations on the underparts. Bill is more like Graceful
though bill shape and size is not a good field character - there is much
overlap. Having said that, bill of Yellow-spotted is generally slightly
shorter and thicker overall.

Jizz is typical Graceful but not Yellow-spotted which looks bigger and
chunkier. This bird has a "small bird" look. Earspot is small and typical
Graceful though what is written about earspot shape and difference between
the three species in the field guides is quite wrong.

I have all three species coming to a feeding platform at my kitchen window -
which highlights how wrong most of the information in the field guides is!
Best field characters for determining the difference between the three,
other than call, is near lack of striations on the underparts of Graceful
and a "small bird" look; blue eye and grey lores in Lewin's and noticeable
striations on the underparts; brown eye, striations on the underparts and
lack of grey lores in Yellow-spotted. Earspot shape, bill size etc does not
work. Graceful has a dark navy-blue eye in adults (often difficult to
determine) but brown in juveniles.

Lloyd Nielsen.

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