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bristlebird & scrubbird

To: Greg Roberts <>
Subject: bristlebird & scrubbird
From: Ian May <>
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:27:07 +0930
Hi all

While it is understandable that some people feel it is in the interest of a rare bird to keep it's site information secret, with few exceptions, sharing actual site information can actually help protect many birds. Frequent visits by concerned observers provides a high level of practical surveillance and encourages positive public awareness leading more to the protection of a rare bird site than is otherwise possible. A great example of this is the Forty Spotted Pardalote site at Kingston in Tasmania where the known sites crawl with concerned citizens who would report and probably drag out by their ear, anyone who acted in a manner that threatened the pardalotes.

Negative attitudes implying" there is a criminal behind every bush" are counter productive, much more than likely to create a public backlash towards nature conservation.

From another angle, I have observed that some commercial bird guides are regular vocal critics about sharing rare bird site information. It appears they feel threatened that public knowledge of rare bird sites diminishes the need for a service they are attempting to provide for money. Fortunately the best of the Australian birding guides are not in this category.

Regards

Ian May

St Helens, Tasmania
currently at Price SA.
0428337956



Greg Roberts wrote:

Mick



You will see in Nick's post that he offers to share site information.



My point is that if that happens and the site information becomes widely
known, the widespread use of playback is pretty well inevitable.



Greg Roberts



From: Mick Roderick Sent: Monday, 12 August 2013 4:27 PM
To: Greg Roberts; 
Cc: birding-aus
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] bristlebird & scrubbird



Having seen this from Greg, and then Bob Inglis' subsequent message I have
re-read Nick's post and cannot see any mention of call-playback being used
and nothing but the most generic of descriptions used for sites visited. Am I missing something?


Mick


From: Greg Roberts <>
To: Cc: birding-aus <> Sent: Monday, 12 August 2013 12:36 PM
Subject: [Birding-Aus] bristlebird & scrubbird


Nick



I saw your post and was a little alarmed by your offer to share site
information in the Border Ranges.



I have had numerous requests for details of sites for scrubbird and
bristlebird in this area and I don't hesitate to politely decline. Many
years ago I found several scrubbird territories at Gloucester Tops and
happily shared that information. These days those poor birds are harassed
endlessly by playback.



The bristlebird is especially sensitive with only a handful remaining in
northern NSW. Frankly, none of us should be using playback to see the
species in the critically endangered south-east Queensland-north-east NSW
population, let alone sharing site information.



People generally are understanding about these matters.


Greg Roberts





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