Is bamboo bird habitat? - inner Sydney

To: L&L Knight <>, Chris King <>
Subject: Is bamboo bird habitat? - inner Sydney
From: Denise Goodfellow <>
Date: Sat, 04 May 2013 16:25:46 +0930
Two species are native, one in the Top End.  I've "Bambusa arnhemicus"
growing in my garden and so far it's behaved itself.

Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
1/7 Songlark Street,
Bakewell, NT 0832
043 8650 835

PhD candidate, SCU
Vice-chair, Wildlife Tourism Australia
Nominated for the Condé Nast international ecotourism award, 2004 by the
renowned American website, Earthfoot.
Wildlife Adviser, BBC¹s ?Deadly 60¹

On 4/5/13 11:30 AM, "Laurie Knight" <> wrote:

> I think the bottom line is that bamboo is an invasive weed that has
> virtually no ecological benefits in Australia.  It can be quite
> difficult to get rid of if it gets away.
> Regards, Laurie.
> On 03/05/2013, at 5:56 PM, Philip Veerman wrote:
>> It depends what is the intended use. What Chris King wrote does not
>> indicate
>> that the developer has any intention that the plantings be of value to
>> birds, so I would prefer to address that question first. Otherwise
>> what is
>> the point?
>> I hope I am not generalising too much here: Bamboo are species of
>> grass and
>> thus they are flowering plants, so it has flowers, but as grass is
>> wind
>> pollinated, the flowers are small. I think the point from Christine
>> Melrose
>> is that the flowers don't have nectar, so that honeyeaters won't use
>> them. I
>> don't know about all bamboo but many large grasses produce large
>> seed heads
>> that many birds such as House Sparrows like to use as nest lining
>> (Pampas
>> grass in particular though I don't know if that is a bamboo -
>> probably not).
>> As far birds go, bamboo, once it is big enough is a good overnight
>> roosting
>> site for communal species such as House Sparrows, Common Mynas and
>> Common
>> Starlings. That is not a good bird option and you can well suggest
>> that as a
>> deterrent, that it will very likely attract noisy and dirty
>> activities of
>> birds that most people don't want (dusk noise, lots of poops).
>> I can't think of any benefit that bamboo would bring to the area in
>> terms of
>> helping with native birds. But is that the intent of the developer?
>> There
>> are many other considerations. A food source for pandas in case
>> Taronga zoo
>> ever gets them again?
>> Philip
>> -----Original Message-----From: birding-aus-
>>  On Behalf Of Chris
>> Melrose
>> Sent: Friday, 3 May 2013 3:16 PM To: Chris King Cc: Birding Aus
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Is bamboo bird habitat? - inner Sydney
>> Hi Chris
>> I'm an old bush regenerator and know that bamboo provides a habitat
>> for
>> nothing because it doesn't flower- it's in the grass family.
>> Running  bamboo
>> is a terrible weed and if that's what they were going to plant it
>> would be
>> out of the pot before you could blink an eye.
>> Go for bottlebruhes, tea tree and wattle. Honeyeaters love the
>> bottlebruhes
>> and you may be lucky enough to get some rosellas or king parrots in
>> after
>> the wattle seed. They will take about 3 years to mature but well
>> worth it.
>> Cheers
>> Chris
>> Christine Melrose
>> 0407705140
>> On 03/05/2013, at 14:37, Chris King <> wrote:
>>> A new development is nearing completion over the road from me. The
>>> developer was talking to me about what they will plant in large
>>> planter boxes at the back of the row of new houses. These will be on
>>> concrete and he needs plants to screen the back fence, but not too
>>> bushy. He wants to plant bamboo but I have never seen any birds use
>>> bamboo. Birds in Backyards says the Australian reed-warbler uses
>>> bamboo thickets but there is no water or reed warblers around here
>>> (apart from the former creek which is now in a concrete drain).
>>> I am next to the proposed Greenway, so we have some planted bush we
>>> would like the development to connect with. Its been suggested to me
>>> that wattles to provide quick coverage planted together with a local
>>> leptospermum would be a good solution, but I would like some
>>> confirmation that bamboo would not provide habitat.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris
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